After a difficult and very wet trip last week I have come to the conclusion that it is time for me to buy some new rain gear. My current gear has gotten old and it does not perform adequately anymore when I have to paddle for hours in steady wind and rain. I tend to paddle in the north (Maine and Canada) and the weather is often cold and wet. I need rain gear that will do its job and keep me dry reliably. My old jacket is one of the versions of gore tex - maybe xl or something like that? I can't recall. My pants are just coated nylon. Both have gotten old after years of use.
I am interested in your advice on this before I make the purchase. I'm interested in hearing from folks that have actual tripping experience with rain gear in poor conditions and in cool/cold temperatures like we find in the north.
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Posted by: mister123 on Jun-01-13 12:19 PM (EST)
I use this stuff.
I use a long raincoat from MEC|
Posted by: kayamedic on Jun-01-13 1:13 PM (EST)
and the cheapest coated pants from Campmor.
A few observations|
Posted by: pikabike on Jun-01-13 4:09 PM (EST)
OP did not mention salt water|
Posted by: kayamedic on Jun-01-13 8:54 PM (EST)
So far I have only done short duration trips( less than a week) on the Maine Islands with a GoreTex drysuit. Yes it does get rinsed on arrival home in fresh water.
To clarify a bit -|
Posted by: rpg51 on Jun-01-13 10:08 PM (EST)
Posted by: pikabike on Jun-01-13 11:35 PM (EST)
It's like a cross between a sprayskirt and a poncho but with real sleeves added. Long in the body, it can serve as emergency storm shelter also while sitting with knees folded up to chest.
Posted by: rpg51 on Jun-02-13 7:02 AM (EST)
MEC is a company....|
Posted by: bigspencer on Sep-06-13 9:14 PM (EST)
Gore-Tex(standard) is an older coating. Most stuff is either nylon or some other synthetic. DryNO3, eVent, Dry.Q, Gore Pro-shell/Active-shell are all coatings that provide excellent breatheability along with waterproofness(some windproof) and are terrific.
I use two different methods:|
Posted by: Jackl on Jun-02-13 6:18 AM (EST)
1. If it is a cold and rainy, I use a two piece dry suit.
Two piece dry suit -|
Posted by: rpg51 on Jun-02-13 7:01 AM (EST)
The two piece dry suits we have....|
Posted by: jackl on Jun-06-13 6:17 AM (EST)
are easy on and off.
Posted by: ppine on Jun-08-13 5:34 PM (EST)
Helly Hansen. Goretex is over-rated. See Alaska Outdoors Forum for a good discussion.
a website = has been pretty good..|
Posted by: bigspencer on Jun-05-13 6:51 PM (EST)
http://www.outdoorgearlab.com has more than a few reviews...fwiw. Am about in the same boat....
Another vote for the Froggs|
Posted by: sweeper on Sep-05-13 9:40 AM (EST)
They work, their cheap and if their torn, their cheap.
And if the Froggs rip....|
Posted by: jonathan on Sep-21-13 2:43 PM (EST)
...good duct tape (not the cheap duck stuff) makes a quick repair that lasts a while.
Posted by: richardp on Sep-05-13 11:52 AM (EST)
Sounds like you are going to remote places in spring and fall. I would not mess around with any cheap stuff. I use a 2 piece rain suit designed for hikers from North Face. It is not Gortex, just coated nylon with lots of ventilation. This has served me well over the years. Good movement and ventilation are key - especially for a canoeist (and especially if you will portage).
Posted by: hikenmike on Sep-21-13 10:54 PM (EST)
If you have failing seam tape gore products are warrantied for life. I use gore 3 layer products. (Pants jacket dry suit and dry top) I trust them and they work as well or better than the competition. Gore is more expensive but they back up their products for life. Last year I noticed the seam tape on my rain coat was failing so I tried to contact the company (moonstone) which was purchased by Columbia (not a gore user) and was refered to gore. They had me pick out any gore jacket I wanted from any company and shipped to my house. I will only buy gore because of this. Worth every penny.
I don't expect to stay dry while paddlin|
Posted by: TommyC1 on Sep-22-13 12:58 PM (EST)
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What I've concluded|
Posted by: WaterBird on Sep-26-13 8:40 PM (EST)
I had to replace a jacket recently. It was an LL Bean Trail Model coated nylon jacket, said to be 100% waterproof, that was just terrible in the rain. It soaked through in about 10 minutes.
Posted by: Beaverjack on Sep-28-13 7:46 PM (EST)
I bought some helvey hanson rain gear years ago in anticipation of a hunting trip to Alaska. It's still hanging unused in my closet. It's what the big boys wear in the rain.
Posted by: rblturtle on Oct-02-13 6:23 AM (EST)
After many systems,I have settled on a long LL Bean gortex rain parka top with a wide brimmed hat. If it's not too cold,I just write off my lower legs and feet and wear shorts and keen sandles. When it's colder,I wear coated rain chaps on my legs with fleece underneath and neoprene high boots. The air gaps at the neck and waist vent moisture quite well. Been was the only place i could find a goretex rain parka at the time,but i see REI or Campmore have one now. The Beam parka was pricy,but doesn't leak at all.
Raingear for Paddling on Extended Trips|
Posted by: Murph1 on Oct-02-13 9:43 PM (EST)
Over my fifty years of canoeing, rafting, backpacking, and mountaineering I have used a large quantity of raingear from coated nylon ponchos to expensive Gore tex dry suits. My experience is you get what you are willing to pay for.
Posted by: Umnak on Oct-03-13 1:39 AM (EST)
You are asking about rain gear, not, it seems, dry tops or dry suits. I live and paddle in the Tongass Rainforest. If you want to stay dry in cool, wet weather while in camp buy Helly Hansen Impertech. It doesn't breath and it will withstand days and days of constant rain. We use Kokatat dry suits and paddle tops while in the boats, but Helly Hansen rules the land.
Lid for the mellon|
Posted by: mike on Aug-18-14 7:07 PM (EST)
IMO, the best raingear is a wide brimmed hat. The rest of you is going to get wet, so just accept it and move on.
Posted by: ppine on Aug-26-14 4:39 PM (EST)
Looking at this thread for first time|
Posted by: Guideboatguy on Oct-18-14 9:53 PM (EST)
breatheability, waterproofness and|
Posted by: bigspencer on Dec-20-14 11:45 PM (EST)
might repeat others, but the breatheable|
Posted by: bigspencer on Jan-06-15 2:32 PM (EST)
middle layer, like in skiing, is the best...the wicking then the middle layer, followed by the breatheable shell is very comfy. Once you have the wicking and outer shell layers you can dabble with the middle layer, but those warm-moist and cold-moist 4days of showers are best conquered with the breatheables...although pricy I've found that they dry out enough to repeat wearing pretty quickly after one strips to towel/dry off.
Posted by: joewildlife on Jan-06-15 9:24 PM (EST)
Helly Hansen is king where it is real wet. The rubber over fabric kind. It is what all the commercial fishermen use. See Deadliest Catch...