original point. This is labeled, and "guidelined" as a wilderness, BWCA and beyond forum, but people are treating it as a canoe camping forum.
I'm not very interested in whether people can draw a clear distinction between wilderness rivers, wild rivers, and the Chicago River, but about half the posts on here can't be related to "wilderness" or "wild." I don't think anyone here can dispute that.
I've soloed the Dolores Slickrock, and soloed a fair number of quasi-wilderness streams in the west. Haven't done the Verde yet. Hard to catch it when there's water.
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