Esopus 6/2 or 6/3 - Canoeing / Kayaking

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Esopus 6/2 or 6/3 - daggermat - May-12-12 7:23 PM
- Congrats on your upcoming 25th - clarion - May-13-12 8:03 AM
- 6/3 a possibility for me. - spiritboat - May-15-12 10:18 AM
- Defiantly maybe - mintjulep - May-17-12 11:36 AM
  - defiantly? - daggermat - May-17-12 7:46 PM
    - funny one SB lol. - daggermat - May-22-12 7:23 PM
      - How 'bout one long run? - spiritboat - May-24-12 11:24 AM
        
        all of the above - daggermat - May-25-12 8:32 AM
        Russian proof! - mintjulep - May-25-12 11:07 AM
        
        roflmao - daggermat - May-25-12 1:02 PM
        
        More like...Russian sub! - spiritboat - May-25-12 4:15 PM
        
        probable change - daggermat - May-29-12 9:25 AM
        
        I paddled it yesterday... - spiritboat - May-29-12 10:41 AM

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  Congrats on your upcoming 25th
  Posted by: clarion on May-13-12 8:03 AM (EST)

We've got the Slippery Rock clinic that weekend so I'm definately out for the Esopus. Have fun and hope you have a nice level. I'd like to do it again when the race course is technical. Last time I was there it was 2900 and washed out.

Hope someone gets some pics/video. We'll get some from the Slip Clinic.

  6/3 a possibility for me.
  Posted by: spiritboat on May-15-12 10:18 AM (EST)

6/2, I'm in NYC on bitness.

Some years back when I paddled(but didn't "officially" participate in)one of these "Funfest" on the Esopus weekends, I accidentally got to play rapids rodeo clown.

After broaching a friend's Mohawk up against a couple rocks sitting smack dab beneath the spectators' platform above railroad(slalom course), I could faintly hear audible gasps and dire comments coming from the crowd of some-30 people looking down at me. I was wedged in place, with water pouring over the gunnels.

I stood up in the canoe, blew the crowd a kiss and took a bow. Then I prooceeded with my struggle to free the boat--It took only about a minute, but oh, what a LONG embarassing minute! When I finally got extracted and was on my merry way, the crowd broke out in cheers. "I meant to do that, folks."...Yeah, sure.
Anyway, I decided to stick with my little ww yaks, awhile longer after that--They're not nearly as heavy.

  Defiantly maybe
  Posted by: mintjulep on May-17-12 11:36 AM (EST)

It's been far too long since I've been on ww.

The 3rd is better for me.

  defiantly?
  Posted by: daggermat on May-17-12 7:46 PM (EST)

Yeah, I'm a definite maybe, although probably going to pass, as I really just don't care anymore...probably to the low water and memory issues making it impossible to recall the fun I had...
OTOH, Jan and I are doing our anniversary on Thursday, which is the actual day...so I won't have to do the dinner or whatever on the weekend. We're getting massages, and going for a walk on the Bantam river area.

  funny one SB lol.
  Posted by: daggermat on May-22-12 7:23 PM (EST)

-- Last Updated: May-22-12 7:24 PM EST --

a few years back, we were camping by the takeout, next to a bunch of kccny'ers. Aaron and I paddling our warhorse Encores, and i gotta' get a ride up to get my truck. I come back and Aarons talking to the guy who sold Eck his first Encore I think, and he tells me I should get my kid a boat that's not such a pig. I go straight to F U mode, bu ttry to remain pleasant. Tell him how coming into the slalom course down that chute I crabbed a stroke, nearly flipped, but seeing the telephotos on shore and people on the bridge I thought it'd be better cramping my hamstrings in a save than swimming right then, so I did the save. We're admiring the Dagger Quake at his site. He says, "oh yeah, that's my buddies, he swam the slalom course, lost everything, and I had to try to catch his gear." I mentioned something about an upright pig being better than a capsized gazelle and headed for our site.
I'll check with Scott, maybe a day trip, 2 runs, we'll see.

  How 'bout one long run?
  Posted by: spiritboat on May-24-12 11:24 AM (EST)

-- Last Updated: May-24-12 12:08 PM EST --

It's not as many spills and chills going further downstream from Phoenicia(mostly cl.1+-2), but can make for a most scenic and interesting trip. (It would require paddling down toward Boiceville/taking out at the top of the Ashokan Reservoir(We're not allowed paddle in the Res itself) But perhaps you prefer strictly the 8 mile ww action...Just something to think about.

Looks like I will be paddling the headwaters of the Susquehanna this weekend with a CT guy(Jason?)who says he's paddled with the legendary Daggermat and CT runs of that domain(Satan's Kingdom, Shepaug, et al.)
Should be some Memorial fun.

For the Esopus, maybe I'll bring "Piroguie," my homemade highly experimental ww canoe. I dunno if it's a gazelle, a pig or a death trap...

http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2075599770105552613cZwniO

Specs: Length=11'; Beam at waterline=28"; Rocker=8"; Extremely hard(as in, dangerously square)chines.

Parts&Cost: 2 sheets of 5mm luan plywood=$24.
4 tubes of polyurethane construction adhesive=$16.
1 roll of 3" fiberglass tape=$4
Scrap wood for breasthooks and gunnels=$0
1 qt. of red paint=$5
5 hours construction time(not counting drying)=Free
Hilarity from risk to life and limb=Priceless.

--Gotta get some serious flotation for the inside first though....Rest assured, Esquif has nothing to fear.

  all of the above
  Posted by: daggermat on May-25-12 8:32 AM (EST)

-- Last Updated: May-26-12 4:04 PM EST --

and chines that make a viper look like a square rigger lol.
I'm guessing Jason Gould (from NYC), 'cuz the other Jason I paddle with is staying local. JG is a good guy, stepped up his game big time the past couple years. Light years beyond what I'm willing to tackle these days. Maybe if I wore a skirt, had a death wish and less arthritis ;-)...
Yeah, I'll check in with Scott, see how we feel and what local is up to. Been a non paddling year for me (well, relative to other years ;-)), but poling after work today with a kayaking girlfriend, Riverton section, "wild and scenic" and feeling lucky I can do this destination run as an after work thing.

Edit...nah, it was Jason Syman...he may be going out with us next week. Asked if I was headed out...

  Russian proof!
  Posted by: mintjulep on May-25-12 11:07 AM (EST)

Well, that boat looks to be impervious to attack by Russians wielding fishing tackle.

  roflmao
  Posted by: daggermat on May-25-12 1:02 PM (EST)

well, I would be, 'cept I'm at work. Wit like that, I'm gonna' try hard for 6/3.

  More like...Russian sub!
  Posted by: spiritboat on May-25-12 4:15 PM (EST)

-- Last Updated: May-25-12 4:18 PM EST --

I took the boat out this morning for a park-and-play trial run on the Schoharie...Even with knee pads spread wide, things were--ahem, shall we say slightly tippy at first. After a bumpy start and I got over my initial "red scare" I decided I don't want to push her down any Cl. 3(like Elmer's Diner on the Esopus)anytime soon. And although she rode up and over waves and pivots with the greatest of ease, a couple inadvertant side surfs gave me the willies enough to feel like I was inside a fat lady's hat box. So I'll stick to paddling it solely on mellow Cl. 1-2s for awhile. When a plastic hull hits a rock, what's a few more scratches? With a ducky, ya bounce right off But catching the wrong pointer broadside with this tub, and it could result in some serious...splinteration. (Not that I care all that much about it going the distance, if I get a handful of pleasant rides out of it, it's been worth the price--Why should fun be expensive?)

Besides, I've learnt my lesson about bringing too non-conformist a boat along on class trips;-.

  probable change
  Posted by: daggermat on May-29-12 9:25 AM (EST)

looks like my Jersey buds are coming up. Housatonic or Farmington on Saturday. That'll be enough for me and less drive; plus either of those is poleable, so my knees will be happier.

  I paddled it yesterday...
  Posted by: spiritboat on May-29-12 10:41 AM (EST)

Tagged a quick Memorial Day run in Phoenicia with another paddling pal of mine...Really good level, but some junk obstructions(mostly wood)here and there, leftover from Irene. Sunday still a maybe for me, if I don't get hung up in the Big Apple saturday.

	Congrats on your upcoming 25th Posted by: clarion on May-13-12 8:03 AM (EST)
	We've got the Slippery Rock clinic that weekend so I'm definately out for the Esopus. Have fun and hope you have a nice level. I'd like to do it again when the race course is technical. Last time I was there it was 2900 and washed out. Hope someone gets some pics/video. We'll get some from the Slip Clinic.

	6/3 a possibility for me. Posted by: spiritboat on May-15-12 10:18 AM (EST)
	6/2, I'm in NYC on bitness. Some years back when I paddled(but didn't "officially" participate in)one of these "Funfest" on the Esopus weekends, I accidentally got to play rapids rodeo clown. After broaching a friend's Mohawk up against a couple rocks sitting smack dab beneath the spectators' platform above railroad(slalom course), I could faintly hear audible gasps and dire comments coming from the crowd of some-30 people looking down at me. I was wedged in place, with water pouring over the gunnels. I stood up in the canoe, blew the crowd a kiss and took a bow. Then I prooceeded with my struggle to free the boat--It took only about a minute, but oh, what a LONG embarassing minute! When I finally got extracted and was on my merry way, the crowd broke out in cheers. "I meant to do that, folks."...Yeah, sure. Anyway, I decided to stick with my little ww yaks, awhile longer after that--They're not nearly as heavy.

	Defiantly maybe Posted by: mintjulep on May-17-12 11:36 AM (EST)
	It's been far too long since I've been on ww. The 3rd is better for me.

	defiantly? Posted by: daggermat on May-17-12 7:46 PM (EST)
	Yeah, I'm a definite maybe, although probably going to pass, as I really just don't care anymore...probably to the low water and memory issues making it impossible to recall the fun I had... OTOH, Jan and I are doing our anniversary on Thursday, which is the actual day...so I won't have to do the dinner or whatever on the weekend. We're getting massages, and going for a walk on the Bantam river area.

	funny one SB lol. Posted by: daggermat on May-22-12 7:23 PM (EST)
	-- Last Updated: May-22-12 7:24 PM EST -- a few years back, we were camping by the takeout, next to a bunch of kccny'ers. Aaron and I paddling our warhorse Encores, and i gotta' get a ride up to get my truck. I come back and Aarons talking to the guy who sold Eck his first Encore I think, and he tells me I should get my kid a boat that's not such a pig. I go straight to F U mode, bu ttry to remain pleasant. Tell him how coming into the slalom course down that chute I crabbed a stroke, nearly flipped, but seeing the telephotos on shore and people on the bridge I thought it'd be better cramping my hamstrings in a save than swimming right then, so I did the save. We're admiring the Dagger Quake at his site. He says, "oh yeah, that's my buddies, he swam the slalom course, lost everything, and I had to try to catch his gear." I mentioned something about an upright pig being better than a capsized gazelle and headed for our site. I'll check with Scott, maybe a day trip, 2 runs, we'll see.

	How 'bout one long run? Posted by: spiritboat on May-24-12 11:24 AM (EST)
	-- Last Updated: May-24-12 12:08 PM EST -- It's not as many spills and chills going further downstream from Phoenicia(mostly cl.1+-2), but can make for a most scenic and interesting trip. (It would require paddling down toward Boiceville/taking out at the top of the Ashokan Reservoir(We're not allowed paddle in the Res itself) But perhaps you prefer strictly the 8 mile ww action...Just something to think about. Looks like I will be paddling the headwaters of the Susquehanna this weekend with a CT guy(Jason?)who says he's paddled with the legendary Daggermat and CT runs of that domain(Satan's Kingdom, Shepaug, et al.) Should be some Memorial fun. For the Esopus, maybe I'll bring "Piroguie," my homemade highly experimental ww canoe. I dunno if it's a gazelle, a pig or a death trap... http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2075599770105552613cZwniO Specs: Length=11'; Beam at waterline=28"; Rocker=8"; Extremely hard(as in, dangerously square)chines. Parts&Cost: 2 sheets of 5mm luan plywood=$24. 4 tubes of polyurethane construction adhesive=$16. 1 roll of 3" fiberglass tape=$4 Scrap wood for breasthooks and gunnels=$0 1 qt. of red paint=$5 5 hours construction time(not counting drying)=Free Hilarity from risk to life and limb=Priceless. --Gotta get some serious flotation for the inside first though....Rest assured, Esquif has nothing to fear.

	all of the above Posted by: daggermat on May-25-12 8:32 AM (EST)
	-- Last Updated: May-26-12 4:04 PM EST -- and chines that make a viper look like a square rigger lol. I'm guessing Jason Gould (from NYC), 'cuz the other Jason I paddle with is staying local. JG is a good guy, stepped up his game big time the past couple years. Light years beyond what I'm willing to tackle these days. Maybe if I wore a skirt, had a death wish and less arthritis ;-)... Yeah, I'll check in with Scott, see how we feel and what local is up to. Been a non paddling year for me (well, relative to other years ;-)), but poling after work today with a kayaking girlfriend, Riverton section, "wild and scenic" and feeling lucky I can do this destination run as an after work thing. Edit...nah, it was Jason Syman...he may be going out with us next week. Asked if I was headed out...

	Russian proof! Posted by: mintjulep on May-25-12 11:07 AM (EST)
	Well, that boat looks to be impervious to attack by Russians wielding fishing tackle.

	roflmao Posted by: daggermat on May-25-12 1:02 PM (EST)
	well, I would be, 'cept I'm at work. Wit like that, I'm gonna' try hard for 6/3.

	More like...Russian sub! Posted by: spiritboat on May-25-12 4:15 PM (EST)
	-- Last Updated: May-25-12 4:18 PM EST -- I took the boat out this morning for a park-and-play trial run on the Schoharie...Even with knee pads spread wide, things were--ahem, shall we say slightly tippy at first. After a bumpy start and I got over my initial "red scare" I decided I don't want to push her down any Cl. 3(like Elmer's Diner on the Esopus)anytime soon. And although she rode up and over waves and pivots with the greatest of ease, a couple inadvertant side surfs gave me the willies enough to feel like I was inside a fat lady's hat box. So I'll stick to paddling it solely on mellow Cl. 1-2s for awhile. When a plastic hull hits a rock, what's a few more scratches? With a ducky, ya bounce right off But catching the wrong pointer broadside with this tub, and it could result in some serious...splinteration. (Not that I care all that much about it going the distance, if I get a handful of pleasant rides out of it, it's been worth the price--Why should fun be expensive?) Besides, I've learnt my lesson about bringing too non-conformist a boat along on class trips;-.

	probable change Posted by: daggermat on May-29-12 9:25 AM (EST)
	looks like my Jersey buds are coming up. Housatonic or Farmington on Saturday. That'll be enough for me and less drive; plus either of those is poleable, so my knees will be happier.

	I paddled it yesterday... Posted by: spiritboat on May-29-12 10:41 AM (EST)
	Tagged a quick Memorial Day run in Phoenicia with another paddling pal of mine...Really good level, but some junk obstructions(mostly wood)here and there, leftover from Irene. Sunday still a maybe for me, if I don't get hung up in the Big Apple saturday.