Canoe w/Trolling Motor Safety
Posted by: old_user on Mar-23-05 10:13 PM (EST)
I'm trying to set my canoe up with a trolling motor, but my total lack of knowledge on trolling motors has left me with a few questions. I want to make sure I have the necessary safety angles covered so I'm hopeful folks will share their experiences on the questions below.
Do you secure the battery box to the canoe? If so, how?
What happens if the battery becomes submerged? I imagine it ruins the battery, but does it also present a danger while submerged?
Anyone experienced tipping over while underway? PWC have auto-kill switches to minimize the danger in this case - worthwhile for a similar feature on a canoe or unnecessary?
I'm pretty clueless on this stuff so other tips are welcome too.
Thanks in advance!
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Battery Box strapped to seat.|
Posted by: old_user on Mar-24-05 5:33 PM (EST)
My 70 amphour Walmart Marine battery fits the medium size black plastic battery box exactly. Battery in box, then cables attached to battery posts, then box strapped shut. On my Penobscot 16 canoe the box sits on the hull bottom and snugs up against the aft side of the rear seat with part of the lid actually snugged up under the seat. I strap one of the small ratcheting type straps around the seat and under and around the box and ratchet the thing tight. If I ever capsize the box theoretically could slide out of the strap and sink but in backyard tests with the canoe on its side it just slides over a bit till the hull stops it.
Posted by: old_user on Mar-28-05 10:22 PM (EST)
Thanks - very helpful. I appreciate the feedback.
Posted by: old_user on Mar-29-05 9:08 AM (EST)
Submerging the battery (especially for any length of time) may cause the battery to short out. However, as long as the battery acid doesn't spill out onto your skin or the battery doesn't hit you in the head, there shouldn't be a direct danger to anyone in the boat. The current from a battery like this isn't the type that can transfer from the water to someone in the water...too much resistance.
Posted by: headwinds on Mar-29-05 10:54 AM (EST)
might not be a bad idea. This may have been brought up in previous discussions, but remember you're adding a fair amount of weight with a motor and battery, especially if you tie the battery in the boat. I'm not sure whether most canoes have enough built-in floatation to handle it.
I once accidentally pushed....|
Posted by: tapelgan on May-05-05 12:33 AM (EST)
...my canoe under the surface in about 18 inches of water. Thought I could push a small fallen tree up out of the way and pushed the canoe under instead. I immediately bailed out the canoe and tried the battery. It worked fine. Wasn't in a box. I presume longer immersion would have hurt it.
Posted by: old_user on May-07-05 10:16 PM (EST)
The new gel packs can be in any position. They also won't leak, period. As far as a battery being in the water, 12V's won't harm anything substantial, but water is a good conducter with little resistance and will drain it pretty quick
Experiences w/ trolling motor|
Posted by: old_user on May-08-05 9:42 PM (EST)
I have an OTC Guide 147, regularly use a trolling motor and it's a great accessory to have. My apparatus consists of a MinnKota Endura 30 (30lbs thrust, 30" shaft), an all-ash trolling motor mount, and an AGM (gell) size U1 battery fitted inside a milk crate. Also a rubber mat. The footprint of the milk crate is more than large enough to stabilize the smaller size battery so it never tips. The rubber mat keeps the crate from sliding in the canoe.
OT Power Paddle|
Posted by: old_user on May-08-05 10:21 PM (EST)
I have the OT Power Paddle which is a MinnKota motor. 30lbs of thrust 30" shaft. I'm not sure if it's just a repackaged endura, but it doesn't seem very heavy to me.
Tie-downs and regulations|
Posted by: guideboatguy on May-14-05 9:02 PM (EST)
I've never used a battery/trolling motor combination in a canoe, so I can't pass along direct tips. If I saw your outfit I'd have some ideas, but the point I really want to make is that it is likely that the law *requires* you to tightly anchor the battery into the boat (chances are, if it can slide around at all, it doesn't meet regulations), inside some kind of enclosure that protects the terminals from accidental contact. Check your local laws (your state's DNR can provide the info you need). In my state, failure to comply with battery regulations will result in some pretty hefty fines, so I'd suggest that you take the time and effort to "do it right".
On the water....|
Posted by: old_user on May-18-05 6:06 PM (EST)
Thanks for all the tips - quite helpful. I got my rig (OT Guide 147 w/Minn Kota Endura 30) outfitted in early April so I've had some time test a few things out. Here's what I've found so far:
Trolling motor consideration........|
Posted by: old_user on May-20-05 9:28 AM (EST)
You don't say where you are located. In Indiana, we do not have to register canoes and kayaks. If you put any kind of motor (including trolling) on the boat, it must be registered.
Bad news 4 me :(|
Posted by: old_user on Aug-31-08 12:40 PM (EST)
Yesterday, I spent $550.00 on a new Endura 40lb thrust trolling motor, the motor mount, a battery with cover and tie downs and a Canoue tote. I woke up all excited to see what life would be like with amotor and discovered that I have to register my canoue now! The website says that it will take three weeks to process!! How depressing is that? I am a little worried about the weight in my canoue and cant wait to see if this is all doable or if i wasted my money. I weigh 260lbs and the 14 foot Old Town canoue holds 700lbs. With me, fishing gear, the battery and motor and my nephew.... I hope it will stay afloat! im new to this all and am disapointed that I must wait so long to get registered. I thought I could just go to Wallmart and by a sticker haha. Bumer :(
Posted by: old_user on Sep-20-08 10:37 PM (EST)
Posted by: old_user on Sep-22-08 2:44 PM (EST)
Ok... I made a few changes and think that I am solving some problems :) I bought the batery cable extenders which gave me a few extra feet. I then moved the battery to the center of the boat... in front of the seat, while running the cables under the seat. That moved a lot of the weight forward. I took it out yesterday with my Nephew in the forward seat and the Old Town did pretty darn well. Moving the weight forward kept the bow down and even when the waves got a bit scary as the tide came in.... we did fine. The next thing I am going to buy is a Trolling motor handel extender. Once I have that... I can sit in the center of the canoe and should be able to drive, fish, etc from that location. All in all... the 40lb thrust moves this heavy canoe very well and we powered up and down the river for a few hours with nothing but good things to say :)