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Hi All, I have been sitting on these foot pedals for a few months. It's time to install them.
I am installing these in my Old Town Discovery 119K. I purchased the glue on stud kit with them. And that's where I am at. I have all the measuring and test fitting and leaning my shoe against the sideing and measuring and did I mention I measured.
What I am trying to determine now is how big of a glass patch I need for the base of the stud. The base measures 1 3/8 across. I am thinking a 4" rounded square around each(not that I have much more available space). Cover the threads, wet the patch, center the patch on the stud and push the patch down and marry it to the side of the hull.
Is one layer of glass enough? Should I put a second smaller layer on to help reinforce the area where the flat of the stud is?
P.S. It's actually nylon and not fiberglass.
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Just follow the directions|
Posted by: Big_D on Feb-07-13 8:08 AM (EST)
The manufacturer of those things doesn't want your canoe to be any more messed up than you do.
Posted by: mikeski on Feb-07-13 9:29 AM (EST)
Thanks for the reply, and I agree. I am sure the manufacturer would not want me to mess up my canoe. However, the instructions that came with the kit were lacking. After I posted I did a bunch of surfing. I did find better info on their web page. Just not to the detail of the amount of nylon.
Thanks for answering.|
Posted by: Big_D on Feb-09-13 1:49 PM (EST)
Sounds like a good idea. I hope it works out for you.
Not a canoe guy, so|
Posted by: RockyRaab on Feb-07-13 11:28 AM (EST)
Just let me say that if fishing is your main use, what you really need is a fishing-designed sit-on-top kayak.
Posted by: mikeski on Feb-07-13 12:59 PM (EST)
Yes, cost was a factor. The one man Discovery 119 cost me $250. The seat was $110 and the pedals were $40. So, $400 to get on the water. Not to mention all the rest like a PFD, anchor, paddle and all that stuff.
Solo canoe is a good choice.|
Posted by: Big_D on Feb-09-13 1:50 PM (EST)
Lots of good SOT's out there, but they are by far not the only good fishing platforms. I think your buy sounds like it was a really good one and that you'll get a lot of pleasurable use from it.
SOT's are not the only paddle craft to f|
Posted by: old_user on Feb-17-13 6:09 PM (EST)
SOT's are not the only paddle craft to fish from. I will go as far as saying that the only areas that an SOT has any superiority is for stand up fishing and if you are fishing somewhere the selfbailing attributes may be helpful.
Let me understand your point|
Posted by: Big_D on Feb-18-13 12:27 PM (EST)
Are you saying that SOT kayaks are easier to stand in the solo canoes? I wasn't sure how to read which way you meant the advantage on standing to go.
standing and fishing|
Posted by: old_user on Feb-18-13 5:47 PM (EST)
As a general rule of thumb a SOT will be easier to stand and fish in than a solo canoe. Now if the canoe has a flat bottom and a wide beam, and the SOT has a narrower beam and a shallow arced bottom (like a Tarpon) than that canoe would probably be easier to stand in.
Posted by: Big_D on Feb-19-13 7:33 AM (EST)
I won't argue with your hull design analysis. I'll just say that I have no problem standing in any canoe shy of a whitewater canoe that I've ever used, and I've not been able to stand even in my barge of a tandem SOT, an OK Malibu 2.
Posted by: old_user on Mar-05-13 11:25 PM (EST)
I have been thinking about adding foot pedals to my 18 ft Grumman. I am going to try sitting very low in the hull and using a double blade paddle when I paddle solo.
Posted by: Big_D on Mar-07-13 11:11 AM (EST)
With the width of an 18' Grumman canoe, you will need an enormous double bladed paddle to do what you are thinking. That could get rather cumbersome. As far as getting lower in a canoe, using a kneeling position and propping your butt on the edge of the seat rather than a lower sitting position with your legs out in front of you is more traditional. That's not to say that what you're thinking won't work, because it will. But it may not be terribly comfortable unless you are an especially limber individual.
trial and error|
Posted by: old_user on Mar-13-13 12:00 AM (EST)
I mocked up a trial seat in front of the rear thwart and sat in it to try the position out. I have good reach, and I think I will be able to reach the water no problem. I have a line on a 260cm double paddle, and it won't cost me much to try it out. I am interested in trying rowing, but I am not really keen on going backward.
Posted by: Big_D on Mar-13-13 5:50 PM (EST)
Push on the oars instead of pull. If you're in current, it's easy. If you're going against current, then you'll need to pull.
Posted by: old_user on Mar-14-13 11:27 PM (EST)
I am over six foot tall with a long torso. Sitting 3 inches off the bottom still leaves my shoulders well above the gunwales. We'll see.
Posted by: Big_D on Mar-18-13 11:23 AM (EST)
Sit as low as you want. I'm suggesting that you don't HAVE to if you don't want to. The lower you sit, the longer paddle you'll need unless you're a LOT taller than 6' or very broad shoulders. The way we learn is trying new things and seeing how they work out. If you aren't going to risk more money than you can afford to try it out, I encourage you to go ahead with your plans. It may work beautifully, but if it doesn't you'll still learn a lot that you can apply to your final design.