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  Ever done a self recovery in a surf ski?
  Posted by: string on May-27-14 3:13 PM (EST)
 

I paddle with a woman who is a certified kayak instructor. I was out in the ski for the 4th time and frankly, not having a good day. Very wobbly to start and when a boat wake came by, which was frequently.
She told me I need to practice self recovery, so I started looking on the net.I saw statements like "just get back on". There was a video of a guy who got back on using a cowboy reentry that took several tries.
However, I have an over-stern rudder that would not be friendly to body parts.
Given my beat up body, I think if I did get back on I couldn't move for a week.
I told her I go paddling with others and stay close to shore for rescue purposes.
Got any suggestions?Think a paddle float would help? I learned to use one with my SINK.

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  It is easier than it would seem to be.
  Posted by: scottb on May-27-14 4:52 PM (EST)
It's pretty easy to get a leg up and over. Like hopping on a surfboard. Takes like a couple of seconds.
 
 
  Push-ups, Pull-ups and Dips on Land
  Posted by: clydehedlund on May-27-14 5:04 PM (EST)
Will help a lot. Maybe lose weight? Start out in the swimming pool at the shallow end and practice hoisting yourself up onto the deck with the help of your feet and legs. The trick is to do it in one continuous motion: push off (straight up) simultaneously with feet and arms, then spin your butt/bum around so it falls onto the deck. Do this a few times until your brain learns the movement on both the left and right sides. Gradually move on to deeper water. When you finally got it, go practice on your ski in shallow water where you paddle. In two to three weeks, you'll be able to do a deep water re-mount like a pro, even in the chop. If you got a pfd on, then submerge yourself first and let the pfd's buoyancy help pop you up.

Also, don't wear fleece in the water, for it soaks up more water than a sponge and will weigh you down. clyde
 
 
  links to video
  Posted by: kaptynkayak on May-27-14 5:38 PM (EST)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89g4t3tV14c
 
 
  Thanks all! I will try that Friday morn
  Posted by: string on May-27-14 5:53 PM (EST)
 
 
  The Oscar Remount
  Posted by: trilobite02 on May-27-14 7:02 PM (EST)
is by far the easiest. What's key here is positioning your elbow in the bucket first-this positions you properly. Just like rolling, stay as low to the deck/cockpit as you can. Also, try not to be in too much of a hurry to pull your legs in. Get a blade in the water to stabilize, keep both legs over the gunnels, and give a paddle stroke or two to stabilize before tucking your legs in.

The cowboy reentry is best used for some skis that have very deep buckets, and high, sharp side rails-some Fenns, and the Custom Kayaks Synergy come to mind. If you don't have massive thighs, the side saddle mount will do the job. With a bit of practice, you can be back in, in less than 20 seconds.
 
 
  That's the one
  Posted by: alan_gage on May-27-14 7:09 PM (EST)
That's the video I used when I got my V8 to learn the remount. Was surprisingly easy.

Alan
 
 
  side remount if possible
  Posted by: nickjc on May-27-14 8:25 PM (EST)
-- Last Updated: May-27-14 8:29 PM EST --

When transitioning from side saddle to front facing: Bring first leg to OTHER side of boat, NOT into the boat, ie both legs in the water but on either side. Then start sculling or paddling and bring legs in with a bit of boat speed. This lets you orient your boat with the waves before you get your feet in.
In some skis you can sit sidesaddle quite comfortably and just let your legs trail on the upwind side of the boat.
Eventually you can skip this step most of the time and save if for really gnarly conditions. But eventually you will only go swimming in big conditions.
You should really practice until it's second nature. A bomber self rescue has the added benefit of letting you relax in twitchy conditions which makes you less likely to go swimming.
Tired back and core muscles or a bit of head cold can make a world of difference in a ski.
If you are lacking upper body strength necessary to remount get thee to the gym.

 
 
  belly-butt-straddle
  Posted by: Peter-CA on May-27-14 9:12 PM (EST)
Roger Schumann talks about the Belly-Butt-Straddle method for SOTs in an article he wrote in the Fall 2011 issue of California Kayaker Magazine. Can be read online for free at http://www.calkayakermag.com/magazine.html.

Works for surf skis. I know from experience.
 
 
  ?
  Posted by: blitzemall on May-28-14 9:29 AM (EST)
What ski are you using?
 
 
  Stellar 18S
  Posted by: string on May-28-14 2:17 PM (EST)
 
 
  yep
  Posted by: blitzemall on May-28-14 2:30 PM (EST)
That's gonna take some practice.
 
 
  18s
  Posted by: radiomix on May-28-14 9:12 PM (EST)
Really easy to get back in. I'd cowboy that thing. Just stay low until you sit up and sink your butt in the seat.
 
 
  Tried reentry today and failed pub
  Posted by: string on May-30-14 3:38 PM (EST)
-- Last Updated: May-30-14 3:58 PM EST --

miserably. My bad left shoulder and right leg worked against me.
OTOH, I had a great time paddling the ski and my body is learning how it moves.
More self rescue practice to follow.
I have to stop posting from this phone. It likes to add words that make sense to it.

 

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