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  Posted by: Varmintmist on May-19-14 5:03 PM (EST)

Saw a couple other trip threads, here is a slideshow of the one we took from Kinzu Dam to Emlenton on the Allegehenny. Not a ton of senic pics, it rained a lot so I did the best I could.

There was a cross section of boats, Colemans, Grummans, Oldtowns and a unknown fiberglass.

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  that's a lot miles
  Posted by: tdaniel on May-19-14 9:49 PM (EST)
you and the scouts on the trip should be proud of the accomplishment. I paddled 17 miles over the weekend and I am completely worn out!
  It was a blast
  Posted by: Varmintmist on May-20-14 10:08 AM (EST)
The water was up about as high as I would want to take a trip with a bunch of kids of varying ability. At one point the guy with the kayak's GPS said we were doing 5mph, floating. It was a little cold and a lot raining.

It was our second long trip and my fault. The year before we did a 62 in the spring (Bonnie bray to Kennerdale pay access) and got together for a Dad and Lad in Oct. (Kennerdale to below Emlenton) for about 16-17 mi. Being the smartbutt I am, as we were watching ice flow down the river early AM and everyone is stretching after sleeping on the ground, said "Hey. Since we did a 60 and about a 20 on this river, we already have 80 in so ought to just go ahead and do a hundred."

Instead of hearing the expected "Are you nuts?" I got thoughtful looks. Right then I knew I was in trouble.

We went from Kinzu access (dam access was way to boiling) to Anthom, Anthom to Nettle Island (no idea what the name is, just a lot of nettles, but nice hammock trees), Nettle Island to Cranberry campsite, Cranberry to Danner campground, decided to finish that day and went to the Emlenton access. We are the first troop in about 35 years to make Boys Life from this council.

This year we are planning about 67 from Kinzu to Oil City, or start on Tionesta Creek if we have water. Looks like we are going to be running without newbies to so that takes a load off.

Hopefully I can run the kayak. I need a few more hours in soon before I make the call.
  Speaking of 17, once, with a tailwind
  Posted by: ezwater on May-20-14 5:12 PM (EST)
and decent current, we covered 17 miles in 2.5 hours on the Allegheny, not paddling hard and including a leisurely lunch stop.
  looks fun
  Posted by: redrocket on May-20-14 5:31 PM (EST)
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I am attempting to lead my first overnight canoe trip with the boy scouts this weekend. I hope it as successful as yours! We just got five brand new nova craft prospectors and two necky kayaks. I am pretty excited. I am having the boys bring and cook their own dinners, so we will see how that works out. I would love to try and do a hundred miler like you did. Something for the troop to work towards. Thanks for posting the pictures and congratulations on the boys life that is super cool. Also thank you for your service with the scouts, you are doing a great thing.

  Posted by: Varmintmist on May-20-14 10:25 PM (EST)
-- Last Updated: May-20-14 10:30 PM EST --

Overnight isnt a big deal, to get a troop to pack ALL they need for a 5 day trip takes some time. Not saying the first one is easy, but after you get the scouts in the swing, they are just fun. Logistics for 20 people for a multi day trip is a bear.

We went from a car camping troop about 5 years ago to a troop that I would not be afraid to call tonight and say we are going on a short backpack Fri, 10 Mi hike on Sat, and a backpack out Sun Morn by 8A. When we pick them up from a event, their trash is packed and ready while you can see tents still up and stuff all over.

It takes time. We did a 60 miler after about 2 years of back pack camping. Get them into packs, into the woods and out of lodges. Learn back packing stoves and dehydrated food. The easiest trips we do are camp and floats. Find a spot you can launch where you can camp. Sleep, wake up, put in, float the day, and pull out. Works great for a Fri into Sat.

If they have never cooked before, bring a case of MRE's or Mt House meals. You might need to save a couple who bring A meal.
Dry bags are your friend.

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