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  Pelicans on Jocassee.
  Posted by: string on May-13-14 6:22 PM (EST)

I have been frequenting the lake for almost 3 decades and had never seen a pelican there.They were flying north. Must be global warming.

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  Kind of like when we saw the Loon
  Posted by: JackL on May-13-14 6:35 PM (EST)
in the Crystal River in Florida, only in the reverse

Jack L
  Brown or White?
  Posted by: Kudzu on May-13-14 6:35 PM (EST)
-- Last Updated: May-13-14 6:37 PM EST --

I just looked this up:

American White Pelicans are even larger than Brown Pelicans; they are bright white with sharply contrasting black wingtips. They tend to soar high in the sky. If you see a pelican inland it is much more likely to be an American White Pelican than a Brown Pelican.

When I looked up the White Pelican the map shows it... not near Jocassee... ever.

  These were brown pelicans.
  Posted by: string on May-13-14 7:02 PM (EST)
I also looked them up and they were about 150 miles too far north.
  As Hot As It Is...
  Posted by: Kudzu on May-13-14 8:03 PM (EST)
I think your global warming idea might be right.
  Far inland, but not too far north.
  Posted by: g2d on May-13-14 9:07 PM (EST)
On the Atlantic, I've seen them on the outer banks, and probably farther north from there.

White pelicans are on inland lakes way up in northern Canada, so it's hard to see why brown pelicans couldn't handle northern climes.

We see both species in New Orleans. Pelicans know where to have a good time.
  Posted by: meopilite on May-13-14 10:01 PM (EST)
thousands of them here. Want some??
  Sources I'm reading say that pelicans
  Posted by: ezwater on May-14-14 11:00 AM (EST)
sighted well inland are white pelicans, no matter how brown they may appear.

But you never know. I have a photo of two whooping cranes in eastern Idaho, where they were not supposed to be. Long before, however, there had been a project nearby to get a whooper breeding marsh started.

The photos aren't that great, but they look white, not the tannish color of sandhill cranes, of which I've seen many.
  Compare 1990 and latest Audubon guides
  Posted by: pikabike on May-14-14 1:36 AM (EST)
While I sure didn't compare every location map, where there were changes the shifts all went to the north. Never to the south. That is why I kept my old guide even though I have a new one. I'll try to remember to look at the maps for brown pelican to see if that is one of the species that has shifted northward.
  Peterson Guides, not Audubon
  Posted by: pikabike on May-16-14 1:00 AM (EST)
Turns out mine are for western U.S., so no maps showing eastern territories of birds.
  Stokes Field Guide agrees....
  Posted by: voyageur47 on May-17-14 10:25 AM (EST)
also nowhere near Jocassee any time of year, for either species of pelican. It is, however, a 1996 edition, and climate change could certainly affect their range.
  Whiet Pelicans winter....
  Posted by: JackL on May-14-14 8:17 AM (EST)
in the remote off shore Keys of south Florida.
It is neat to sneak up on the other side of a spit or Key and get close to them. We have done it lots of times. They are very shy and it takes some slow stalking to get close.
They hunt for fish completely different then their Brown cousins. They all get in a long side by side line, and then paddle forward while slowly encircling an unsuspecting school of fish, which they then just gobble up.
Just the opposite of the Browns who individually dive bomb from the air and grab a fish

Jack l
  We get them here
  Posted by: vic on May-14-14 12:25 AM (EST)
We've been living in rural central Iowa since 1986. Every spring, except maybe five times, we have had white pelicans stop over on our seven acre pond every year between April 3 and April 28.

They usually arrive in mid afternoon, herd the fish into the shallows and chow down. They usually leave the next morning by about 9am.

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  Here also
  Posted by: PJC on May-14-14 8:02 AM (EST)
They've been hanging around on the Wisconsin River near Sauk City this year. (White Pelicans only, BTW)

Over the last thirty years or so I've only seen them a couple other times on the river and that was very early season. I assumed they were migrating through to the lakes further north. This year the numbers are greater and they're hanging around.

I'm wondering if it might be cold rather than warming keeping them here. This has been an unusually cold winter. Lake Superior and points north might still be largely frozen and they're stuck with the fishing here till things look better up there.

Just a thought.
  Tennessee Birdwalk/Pella Can Wander
  Posted by: canoeswithduckheads on May-15-14 8:11 AM (EST)
i can not.
butz eyes snow
wat er SOT!
juz ain't white!
Jo cas see!
brow enlight!

In this age of globes warming, climactics in changing acrobatics, and, as avians flew, or flu, when I see geese revoking their namesake Canadian citizenship, and black vultures outnumbering their turkey brethren on these mid-Atlantic high voltage line towers by the landfills, in this time when we're implored to ask, "What can Brown do for you?" (Don't answer, thebob! We know the Dragonfly's out there somewhere, and what's up, dock?), why should it be so odd to find the coastal coaster to interlope inland? Or, as I half expect to see soon, the snowy owl pouncing upon an adolescent python coiled about a Ring Ouzel choking on its last snail darter supper, all beside a downtown Cincinnati Marriott Guest Suites landscaped fountain, with bronze memorial plaque fastened thereon proclaiming, "Martha's Last Message - Take a Pass."


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