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  St. Louis PD article on ONSR
  Posted by: gremmie on Jan-26-14 7:27 AM (EST)
 

-- Last Updated: Jan-26-14 7:51 AM EST --

Doubts about the future of a national park in the Ozarks

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/doubts-about-the-future-of-a-national-park-in-the/article_02722479-7801-5d45-83f1-10d2a3ea21e1.html

Not much new news here. Check out the comments. Lot of cage rattling. Plus some real misinterpretations of the history of the Current including the comments about the gravel in the river -- that the river has become more choked with gravel because dredging was stopped! My understanding is that there is much more chert gravel in the river now than in the early settlement times because of logging, erosion and dynamiting of the river bed to aid the floating of logs downstream.


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  So discouraging
  Posted by: Guideboatguy on Jan-26-14 11:39 AM (EST)
-- Last Updated: Jan-26-14 11:39 AM EST --

"We have met the enemy and he is us".

My faith in human beings just continues to plummet. One comment which was every bit as ignorant as the ones about how the river is now suffering due to the supposed lack of dredging, is one guy's reply to a remark about how activities associated with the "local heritage" have ruined a couple other Ozark rivers. The reply is basically, "so why focus corrective actions on the ONSR?" Um, maybe because that's the Park Service's responsibility, and those other rivers that were mentioned are NOT national parks? Gosh, the stupidity of some of those people absolutely astounds me.

 
 
  Well Eric
  Posted by: vic on Jan-26-14 2:06 PM (EST)
"... the stupidity of some of those people absolutely astounds me." I agree with you on that. What is really unfortunate, is that it really does not surprise me.
 
 
  Article isn't terrible
  Posted by: pblanc on Jan-26-14 3:16 PM (EST)
insofar as it is a reasonably concise report on recent events and comments made regarding the draft General Management Plan.

I found it unfortunate, though predictable, that a majority of those quoted in the article were local people with some ax to grind, or an obvious vested interest.

The article includes quotes from a farmer and a logger. In my experience, farmers and loggers have not been the greatest stewards of the nation's riverways.

Then we have comments from Kim Rains, who purports to be a relative of disgruntled former land owners allegedly forced to sell their land when the ONSR came into being.

The president of the Eminence Chamber of Commerce, Nancy Brewer, gets her say as well. In her opinion, it was inappropriate to have one of four public meetings outside of the immediate area and in proximity to Missouri's second largest metropolitan area. This was "a clear sign of the park service's bias" and an invitation for those who live in St Louis to impose their views on someone who has to live down here and depends on the river for their livelihood."

And there is Jerry King quoted, president of Voice of the Ozarks, a group which has been opposing the efforts of the NPS to manage the ONSR since 2007, who called the NPS draft GMP "an attempt to control our water." In Mr King's opinion "The National Park Service, at the prompting of the Sierra Club and other environmental groups, wishes to turn a Scenic Easement into an Environmental Park inaccessible to everyone but the environmentalists!" (the latter taken from his Voice of the Ozarks webpage).

And of course, we have most of the photos accompanying the article showing the "100 trailer rally" the most recent political grandstanding event organized by Rick Mansfield of the Ozark Heritage Project, who has been going out of his way recently to make himself as photogenic as possible. Looks like he succeeded. Mr Mansfield is the guy who claims to have gigged on the Current and Jack's Fork for 50 years and has never seen a paddler on the rivers during gigging season.

I really have trouble getting my head around Brad Jadwin's logic (the logger) who says "They are taking our national treasure and giving it to somebody that cannot see what’s here.” I assume that Mr Jadwin would be referring to non-local people. So the "national treasure" is being given away to the nation's people?

Of course, also mentioned are some of the inane comments made by Congressman Jason Smith and Lt Governor Peter Kinder.

To balance all of this out we have a few comments made by John Hickey, director of the Missouri chapter of the Sierra Club, who says "This is a national park. This belongs to everyone. And the National Park Service’s job is to preserve it for everyone,"
some very bland and non-committal comments made by the park's spokeswoman Dena Matteson, and a few comments from Lynn McClure, a regional director of the National Parks Conservation Association, who points out that "the Ozark Riverways is not on a sustainable path."

I hope anyone who cares about the ONSR and supports some effort by the NPS to manage it has commented on the official NPS webpage, or does so before February 7 when the public comment period ends.
 
 
  Ironically
  Posted by: gremmie on Jan-27-14 9:13 AM (EST)
-- Last Updated: Jan-27-14 9:55 AM EST --

the one thing common to all of us on all sides of ONSR is the love of land. Unfortunately the land is being loved to death. Not just in the numbers of users but in how our use is magnified by our choices of machine or animal by which we interface with the land. And whereby the identity with the machine and the technology trumps love of land and creates divides between users. Recreational industries are founded and sustained by fostering identity with machine. That martial caravan of the jet boats was not lead by poor hill folk who are being denied access to the river. There are not many poor folk who can afford the $40,000 to $50,000 pickups pulling those horse trailers in the Ozark hills. Likewise, to be fair, I have seen some pretty extravagant setups among some paddlers pulling into Pulltite. And as to the weekend dorks, well the Busch family ain't getting any poorer as a result.

Many of us derive from the same stock of folk who settled the Missouri hills. My roots in S. IL are as humble and poor as they come. And in my own way, I share many of their individualistic, anti government and anti cultural feelings (you'd never guess that from my writing! hehehe). I did however have an opportunity to obtain a great education that allowed an expansion of perspective. A perspective that deepened my understanding of land and the long view of it, which can lead one toward ethical restraints on one's own land use as well as to judgments about others' land use. But that in no way renders me or my views superior to those shared by those who live in the land that I love to visit. It is easy to label and make common enemies. But we need to be aware of the forces that create such divides by their power to shape identification, not with the land but with how we interact technologically with the land. None of which is sustainable in our current way of living. Only the land endures. If we cannot find some commonality in how the NPS serves its role as land steward then there just ain't much hope for anything anymore. The machine will have won.

 
 
  Show me the money....................
  Posted by: thebob.com on Jan-27-14 1:05 PM (EST)
-- Last Updated: Jan-27-14 1:29 PM EST --

A lot of the "good old boys" like to play the "messing with our heritage", "stealing our river" cards for the media, to gain followers, and create dissent.

The "followers", and the general public need not be made aware of the "good old boys" agendas, or their vested interests in the outcome of anything even remotely related to the Ozark National Scenic Riverways. The "good old boys" would prefer you NOT know their real agenda.

Do some follow up, and you'll most certainly find that many of the "good old boys"; especially those who are the most vocal, and the most organized, have agendas directly related too:

Political offices
Real estate sales
Mining
Logging
Canoe outfitting
Trail riding
Construction
Boat, boat trailer, and boat motor sales.
Horse, horse trailers, and horse tack sales.

Contrary to what they voice so voraciously; few give a tinker's dam about the rivers. Their real, "unstated" agenda is that change not occur, or if change does occur, it is in their favor. Their main interest/concern; maintain, or increase their revenue, and power base.

Show me the money!!!

BOB

P.S. When the "good old boys" start painting the picture of the local family, out for a quiet, saturday afternoon of fishing in their jon boat, on the Current river..........Get your boots on; the crap is gonna get deep.

Anyone even remotely serious about fishing won't be out on the Current river on a weekend. They no more want to deal with the drunken river dorks, and "NASCAR wanna bes" in their jon boats; than do real paddlers seeking a natural (non motorized) river expericence, and a little peace & quiet.

 
 
  To wit
  Posted by: pblanc on Jan-27-14 2:12 PM (EST)
-- Last Updated: Jan-27-14 2:29 PM EST --

We have this short article covering the Kirkwood meeting:http://www.travtalk.net/ozarkers-city-folks-mix-it-up-peacefully/

which mentions Brian Keathley who operates Buckshot Marine in Van Buren, MO walking around the meeting with a sign that read "ONSR & Sierra Club drowning people from their desks"

and Rick LaPlant, owner of R&L Marine near Piedmont, MO.

I suspect one or both of them were the jet boat advocates mentioned by Micheal Dee in this thread:
http://www.missouriwhitewater.org/uieforum?c=showthread&ThreadID=6311

But I'm sure that Mr Keathley's and Mr LaPlant's opposition to jet motor boat restrictions on the ONSR is motivated solely by their altruistic concerns for the safety of hapless paddlers on the riverways and their desire to rescue them from their ineptitude rather than any fiduciary interests.

 

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