On one of my local lakes I found a very small island and I totally want to camp on it. I'm not really sure if I'm allowed to do that, but if I pull my kayak up into the trees I'm fairly certain nobody will know I'm there. Opinions?
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Leave no trace.|
Posted by: tktoo on Dec-27-13 8:10 PM (EST)
Posted by: apmorgan93 on Dec-27-13 11:45 PM (EST)
I think the lake is owned by the gov? Its West Branch reservoir in east Ohio. On the end of the lake I want to go there is very little to no boat traffic and there doesn't appear to be anything to close in the vicinity. On the day I went there wasn't even anyone else on that end of the lake except for a small fishing vessel off in the distance. The island is really grown up with trees and stuff and you cant see more than a few feet into it. There also isn't really a place to land thanks to the trees so I was planning on trimming a few limbs so I could sneak on and pull my boat up behind me. I'd try to go on a night with no moon so nobody will see my small fire. And I definitely planned on leaving no trace and cleaning up any sign I was there.
Posted by: coronaboy on Dec-28-13 9:24 AM (EST)
I paddle that part of the reservoir too.. You must be talking about the area that's no powerboat allowed. I would think that there would be a good deal of poison ivy on that island.
Not West Branch, but...|
Posted by: coronaboy on Dec-28-13 6:20 PM (EST)
Do you have any idea where Blazin Bill's is? I've dropped my car there and "commando" camped on the Cuyahoga after putting in at Eldon Russell Park. I have hadsmall fires.... But I used a tarp, maybe 8x10 folded in half tied between trees to block any view of the fire . So far it's worked a couple times. By the way, I've hammocked..
I'd check out OHDNR and park regs.|
Posted by: tktoo on Dec-28-13 9:55 AM (EST)
The worst thing you could do...|
Posted by: jackL on Dec-28-13 10:12 AM (EST)
is have a fire at night.
Posted by: Guideboatguy on Dec-28-13 10:23 AM (EST)
With all that thick vegetation, I suppose if the island is big enough no one would see a small fire as long as you were far enough back from shore. If the island is small, don't count on the fire not being seen no matter how thick the vegetation (it only takes a speck of a view for it to be obvious). Also, this must have been a typo on your part, but your fire will be just as easy for other people to see on a night with no moon as it would be any other night.
now is the time|
Posted by: sully on Apr-13-14 3:54 PM (EST)
Now is the time to get out and scout. get in there make a small clearing and don't advertise. this is common in northwest Ohio on the Maumee river. the odnr knows about it however and while it's probably not legal they don't chase us off in fact they caught 8 of us about 5yrs ago camping on a sunday morning and only wanted to know if we had guns and were hunting. we offered them breakfast but they weren't interested. get a fishing licence make sure to take a fishing pole and throw it in and you shouldn't have a problem. we have a group up here "River Rat's Adventure Club" with somewhere around 40 of us and most don't get out much anymore but some of us diehards still go out on the islands a dozen times in the summer. beware the poison ivy, I scout early and hit it with roundup and be respectful and clean up after yourself and others, happy camping. p.s. take a kid, you'll have changed him or her and given them a memory they will never forget and change them into a future outdoors person.
My first reaction|
Posted by: PJC on Dec-27-13 9:02 PM (EST)
Don't argue with anyone who asks you|
Posted by: pirateoverforty on Dec-27-13 9:26 PM (EST)
That is called "stealth camping"|
Posted by: jackL on Dec-28-13 6:36 AM (EST)
And it is done all the time.
Just how are you going to crap?|
Posted by: kayamedic on Dec-28-13 3:41 PM (EST)
Its a reservoir you said. Are you prepared and willing to take it ALL with you?
Probably the same place a bear craps|
Posted by: yakfisher on Apr-13-14 5:54 PM (EST)
in the woods. LOL
Posted by: jonsprag1 on Dec-28-13 7:12 PM (EST)
or rather should equal leave no trace---no fires, don't pee in the water (remember it's a reservoir) and use a wag bag or home made crap wrap bag to take your fecal material out with you--don't bury it due to small islands generally having a very thin layer of top soil---it sounds like it is real small---imagine if 30 people all camped there in the course of a summer and all buried their crap--if you can't do all of the above, don't camp there
Posted by: ppine on Dec-29-13 1:26 PM (EST)
Yes. Show respect. To the water, the wildlife, the island, other users and the owners of the island and you will have no problems.
Well, respect to the owner would be|
Posted by: pirateoverforty on Dec-29-13 1:45 PM (EST)
shown by getting his permission first, and that appears to be off the table. Best to bank on hiding and if someone shows up pissed off don't stand there and argue.
Posted by: coronaboy on Dec-29-13 2:52 PM (EST)
The original poster................|
Posted by: thebob.com on Dec-29-13 8:11 PM (EST)
Resistance is NOT futile|
Posted by: Scupperfrank on Dec-29-13 10:19 PM (EST)
It's Voltage divided by Current.
if he does all that|
Posted by: jonsprag1 on Jan-02-14 11:58 AM (EST)
nobody will ever know the OP had been on the island and he will never be found out---unless he comes back here and tells everybody about it--lol
And your car?|
Posted by: MintJulep on Dec-30-13 8:47 AM (EST)
Assuming that you cartop to a launching point, what will you do with your car overnight?
Have you Googled and/or contacted|
Posted by: deuce on Dec-30-13 8:58 AM (EST)
management? If it's a COE impoundment surely there's someone who can tell you definitively whether island camping is allowed. I know on the COE impoundments here one is free to camp on any island, but that may not be the case there.
Posted by: coronaboy on Dec-30-13 3:21 PM (EST)
open 24hrs. for night fishing
Homework - do it.|
Posted by: Steve_in_Idaho on Dec-31-13 7:39 PM (EST)
All land is either privately owned or government owned. Find out who the owner is and go from there. It is public information. If gov't owned, responsible land management agency will have some policy that you can refer to for the place in question. Asking on a web forum is not a reliable source.
Now that you have all the good, bad|
Posted by: jackL on Jan-01-14 7:18 PM (EST)
and indifferent advice, just go do "stealth" and none of us here will ever know.
time to scout|
Posted by: sully on Apr-13-14 3:57 PM (EST)
Stealth camping isn't much fun|
Posted by: Waterbird on Apr-14-14 10:53 PM (EST)
I've done stealth camping by bike, kayak, canoe, and car for years. It's usually not much fun. You spend most of your time worrying about getting caught. You have to set up camp late and leave early in the morning. You avoid fires and lights. Not much point in sitting in the dark for a few hours and leaving at the break of dawn.