Have you gone paperless? - Canoeing / Kayaking

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Have you gone paperless? - string - Mar-14-13 8:34 PM
- Loved it - jhb8426 - Mar-15-13 12:24 AM
  - A Virtual Mess - canoeswithduckheads - Mar-15-13 8:04 AM
  - To make me go paperless, you will - Jsaults - Mar-18-13 4:46 PM
- That's funny! - TexasLady - Mar-15-13 11:18 AM
- Some ladies need to go paperless - g2d - Mar-15-13 12:52 PM
  - The woods? - string - Mar-15-13 8:25 PM
- Loved it! - kayakrazee - Mar-15-13 10:28 PM
- it's happened before , but .... - pilotwingz - Mar-16-13 11:35 PM
  - (and continuing...) - canoeswithduckheads - Mar-18-13 8:45 AM
- Social commentary? - suntan - Mar-18-13 2:39 PM
  - Thanks! What a way to end my day. - shirlann - Mar-18-13 10:39 PM
    - I'll tell you about paperless......... - thebob.com - Mar-19-13 11:57 PM
      - OT - TP aside... - jhb8426 - Mar-20-13 1:08 AM
        
        11 day's 1 roll !!! - Wickerbutt - Mar-20-13 8:03 AM
        
        It's Nature's Way of Telling You... - canoeswithduckheads - Mar-20-13 8:48 AM
        
        Don't remember ........................ - thebob.com - Mar-20-13 9:18 AM
        
        When in the South ,DO NOT USE MOSS - string - Mar-20-13 1:00 PM
        
        how about orange peels? - slushpaddler - Mar-20-13 5:17 PM
        
        SP, have you been around that long? - string - Mar-20-13 11:14 PM
        
        nope! - slushpaddler - Mar-21-13 9:05 AM
        
        Orange peels............. - thebob.com - Mar-21-13 10:20 AM
        
        I would hesitate to try that here. - string - Mar-21-13 11:20 AM
        
        AR-15 - thebob.com - Mar-21-13 12:05 PM
        
        I don't know what to say - slushpaddler - Mar-21-13 11:57 AM
        
        Grain of salt.......... - thebob.com - Mar-21-13 12:11 PM
        
        ah mea culpa - slushpaddler - Mar-21-13 1:12 PM
        
        I feed my orange peels to fire ant - string - Mar-21-13 10:21 PM
        
        Ever try? - thebob.com - Mar-21-13 11:15 PM
        
        Aren't they proposing a ban on... - canoeswithduckheads - Mar-22-13 6:52 AM

Messages in this Topic

  Loved it
  Posted by: jhb8426 on Mar-15-13 12:24 AM (EST)

Fitting conclusion.

  A Virtual Mess
  Posted by: canoeswithduckheads on Mar-15-13 8:04 AM (EST)

the "music roll"
that sacred scroll
won't play out now for me,
crystal display's
less clear today
one's with two's aren't binary

  To make me go paperless, you will
  Posted by: Jsaults on Mar-18-13 4:46 PM (EST)

have to pry the last roll of Scott 1000 from my cold, dead hands.

Jim

  That's funny!
  Posted by: TexasLady on Mar-15-13 11:18 AM (EST)

I haven't lost my page turning, note posting, paper handling ways to the digital age yet. Now I have a comeback to my friends who tease me with their Nooks and Ipads. :-)

  Some ladies need to go paperless
  Posted by: g2d on Mar-15-13 12:52 PM (EST)

in the woods. Or take it with them.

  The woods?
  Posted by: string on Mar-15-13 8:25 PM (EST)

  Loved it!
  Posted by: kayakrazee on Mar-15-13 10:28 PM (EST)

  it's happened before , but ....
  Posted by: pilotwingz on Mar-16-13 11:35 PM (EST)

...... not intentionally .

In days of old when Nights were bold and tolet paper not yet invented ... they wiped their a-s with blades of grass and went away contented .

  (and continuing...)
  Posted by: canoeswithduckheads on Mar-18-13 8:45 AM (EST)

Butt here now annoys ya
cut-up Blades of the Zoysia,
per Marco Polo's last crusade,
would have been less harmin'
if he'd rolled with those Charmin
China Knights in their silk-seat parade.

  Social commentary?
  Posted by: suntan on Mar-18-13 2:39 PM (EST)

  Thanks! What a way to end my day.
  Posted by: shirlann on Mar-18-13 10:39 PM (EST)

  I'll tell you about paperless.........
  Posted by: thebob.com on Mar-19-13 11:57 PM (EST)

-- Last Updated: Mar-20-13 12:07 AM EST --

I drive cross country from central Missouri to Lander, Wyoming; the home base of the National Outdoor Leadership School.I am enrolled in the 21 day Outdoor Educators Course.We'll spend the 21 days of our course in the Big Horn mountains of Wyoming.

We spend our first day being outfitted with clothes, boots,gainters, rain suits, tents, tarps, rainfly, a small library of books, first aid kits, food, cooking utensils, Sierra cup, canteens,compass, notebook & pencil, ropes, caribiners, nylon webbing,climbing chocks, helmets, ice axes, figure 8s, maps, sleeping bags, and assorted misc. gear.
I weigh my pack; it is 78 lbs w/o any personal items I will be allowed to carry.

We are carrying a lighter load of food than we'll be carrying after we're resupplied with food after our first 11 days in the mountains. Bigger appetites after acclimatation to altitude. They'll pack the food in to us on burros.

We are going to practice minimum impact camping.

About the paper: We get one (1) roll of TP per food group of 3 to 4 students. That one roll must last 3 to 4 people for 11 days!

If you want a challenge; limit yourself to just one roll of toilet paper for 11 days.You don't even have to share it with 2 or 3 others. This neccesitates experimentation, conservation, and adaptation. You will examine moss, bark, leaves, grasses, and other such "possibilities" more closely than you ever have before..........

BOB

  OT - TP aside...
  Posted by: jhb8426 on Mar-20-13 1:08 AM (EST)

Do you know if you're going in from the Ten Sleep trailhead? Beautiful area there.

Yes the TP situation sounds challenging.

  11 day's 1 roll !!!
  Posted by: Wickerbutt on Mar-20-13 8:03 AM (EST)

I can use (waste) 1 roll on a 4 day canoe trip all by myself ! I'm such an ass !!

  It's Nature's Way of Telling You...
  Posted by: canoeswithduckheads on Mar-20-13 8:48 AM (EST)

-- Last Updated: Mar-20-13 11:03 AM EST --

...Somethings Wrong

It looks like this here messy caper
will roll right past an end on paper
to end where some will wail and groan
and pine away 'neath non-silent cone,

while others thinking "what a joke"
scratch more than heads when poison oak
leaves their thinking in ways quite rash
of what they'd give for smaller ash

then desperate men, make no mistake
down frightening crevasse begin to snake
where scales of injustice now gather in
those rattlesnakes that shed their skin.

  Don't remember ........................
  Posted by: thebob.com on Mar-20-13 9:18 AM (EST)

-- Last Updated: Mar-20-13 10:14 AM EST --

Don't remember the trailhead where we entered the Big Horns..........I attended the course quite a few years ago.

It was a very challenging experience. Several people (including one instructor) had to be evacuated. I endeavoured to perservere; am happy to report that I was successful.

After much experimentation I found that snow can effectively replace TP. Sticks, rocks, and dry leaves are much less effective
Pucker factor quite high with snow.

Pucker factor also very high when nature called at night.
Especially after having observed grizzly bear scat in the area where your camp was made.

The ultimate pucker factor was reached when a lightning storm moved in on our camp at the base of a place called Cloud Peak. When metallic pieces of equipment start vibrating and making weird, high pitched noises; you have visions of being turned into what might pass for a roasted marshmallow, or a greasy spot. One of the instructors, standing on the side of the mountain, hollering to the skies, "Is that the best you got old man; I'm still standing here"!!! did not inspire confidence that he would survive, to assist us in our ascent of Cloud Peak the next day.

That's how I remember it, but my memory could have been affected by stress. Being forced to go "cold turkey" from cigarettes, beer, wifely companionship, and TP on the day I started the course was a traumatic experience at best.

BOB

P.S. My apologies to the gods of minimum impact for burying 3 lbs of cous cous. Nobody in my food group would eat that dreck, and I got tired of humping 3 lbs of cous cous through the Big Horn mountains of Wyoming.

  When in the South ,DO NOT USE MOSS
  Posted by: string on Mar-20-13 1:00 PM (EST)

or any 3 leaved plants. Any kid who grew up running the woods like I did learned that the hard way.
Spanish moss is a favorite home of redbugs(chiggers)and their favorite places to bite are soft and warm.

  how about orange peels?
  Posted by: slushpaddler on Mar-20-13 5:17 PM (EST)

;)

  SP, have you been around that long?
  Posted by: string on Mar-20-13 11:14 PM (EST)

I bet you haven't won a contest either.

  nope!
  Posted by: slushpaddler on Mar-21-13 9:05 AM (EST)

  Orange peels.............
  Posted by: thebob.com on Mar-21-13 10:20 AM (EST)

-- Last Updated: Mar-21-13 10:25 AM EST --

Fired one warning shot over the head of litter bug throwing orange peels on my lawn last year.
Marlin .45-70 I use for warning shots is so loud he involuntarily wet his pants. Heard he is in therapy now for post traumatic stress disorder.

:^)
BOB

  I would hesitate to try that here.
  Posted by: string on Mar-21-13 11:20 AM (EST)

AR 15 are very popular here and I would be afraid that the return fire wouldn't be a warning.

  AR-15
  Posted by: thebob.com on Mar-21-13 12:05 PM (EST)

They sell those in the midwest too.
Great for recon by fire, and wasting large amounts of ammunition.
I carried one for 3 years in Viet Nam; am quite familiar with it's operation/potential.
Overkill for orange peel literers.

:^)
BOB

  I don't know what to say
  Posted by: slushpaddler on Mar-21-13 11:57 AM (EST)

Except maybe, "I have no idea why anyone in this country thinks we have a gun use problem".

  Grain of salt..........
  Posted by: thebob.com on Mar-21-13 12:11 PM (EST)

Application of "taken with a grain of salt" rule is called for following first post mentioning orange peels.

BOB

  ah mea culpa
  Posted by: slushpaddler on Mar-21-13 1:12 PM (EST)

  I feed my orange peels to fire ant
  Posted by: string on Mar-21-13 10:21 PM (EST)

mounds. No complaints so far.

  Ever try?
  Posted by: thebob.com on Mar-21-13 11:15 PM (EST)

Ever try sprinkling a few grains of salt on the orange peels?
Fire ants might like their orange peels salted.

  Aren't they proposing a ban on...
  Posted by: canoeswithduckheads on Mar-22-13 6:52 AM (EST)

...folks usin' a salt trifle?

String lines up the mound again
A R 15 ants emerges
fire in the hole god bless his soul
orange appealing those clipped scourges?

	Loved it Posted by: jhb8426 on Mar-15-13 12:24 AM (EST)
	Fitting conclusion.

	A Virtual Mess Posted by: canoeswithduckheads on Mar-15-13 8:04 AM (EST)
	the "music roll" that sacred scroll won't play out now for me, crystal display's less clear today one's with two's aren't binary

	To make me go paperless, you will Posted by: Jsaults on Mar-18-13 4:46 PM (EST)
	have to pry the last roll of Scott 1000 from my cold, dead hands. Jim

	That's funny! Posted by: TexasLady on Mar-15-13 11:18 AM (EST)
	I haven't lost my page turning, note posting, paper handling ways to the digital age yet. Now I have a comeback to my friends who tease me with their Nooks and Ipads. :-)

	Some ladies need to go paperless Posted by: g2d on Mar-15-13 12:52 PM (EST)
	in the woods. Or take it with them.

	The woods? Posted by: string on Mar-15-13 8:25 PM (EST)

	Loved it! Posted by: kayakrazee on Mar-15-13 10:28 PM (EST)

	it's happened before , but .... Posted by: pilotwingz on Mar-16-13 11:35 PM (EST)
	...... not intentionally . In days of old when Nights were bold and tolet paper not yet invented ... they wiped their a-s with blades of grass and went away contented .

	(and continuing...) Posted by: canoeswithduckheads on Mar-18-13 8:45 AM (EST)
	Butt here now annoys ya cut-up Blades of the Zoysia, per Marco Polo's last crusade, would have been less harmin' if he'd rolled with those Charmin China Knights in their silk-seat parade.

	Social commentary? Posted by: suntan on Mar-18-13 2:39 PM (EST)

	Thanks! What a way to end my day. Posted by: shirlann on Mar-18-13 10:39 PM (EST)

	I'll tell you about paperless......... Posted by: thebob.com on Mar-19-13 11:57 PM (EST)
	-- Last Updated: Mar-20-13 12:07 AM EST -- I drive cross country from central Missouri to Lander, Wyoming; the home base of the National Outdoor Leadership School.I am enrolled in the 21 day Outdoor Educators Course.We'll spend the 21 days of our course in the Big Horn mountains of Wyoming. We spend our first day being outfitted with clothes, boots,gainters, rain suits, tents, tarps, rainfly, a small library of books, first aid kits, food, cooking utensils, Sierra cup, canteens,compass, notebook & pencil, ropes, caribiners, nylon webbing,climbing chocks, helmets, ice axes, figure 8s, maps, sleeping bags, and assorted misc. gear. I weigh my pack; it is 78 lbs w/o any personal items I will be allowed to carry. We are carrying a lighter load of food than we'll be carrying after we're resupplied with food after our first 11 days in the mountains. Bigger appetites after acclimatation to altitude. They'll pack the food in to us on burros. We are going to practice minimum impact camping. About the paper: We get one (1) roll of TP per food group of 3 to 4 students. That one roll must last 3 to 4 people for 11 days! If you want a challenge; limit yourself to just one roll of toilet paper for 11 days.You don't even have to share it with 2 or 3 others. This neccesitates experimentation, conservation, and adaptation. You will examine moss, bark, leaves, grasses, and other such "possibilities" more closely than you ever have before.......... BOB

	OT - TP aside... Posted by: jhb8426 on Mar-20-13 1:08 AM (EST)
	Do you know if you're going in from the Ten Sleep trailhead? Beautiful area there. Yes the TP situation sounds challenging.

	11 day's 1 roll !!! Posted by: Wickerbutt on Mar-20-13 8:03 AM (EST)
	I can use (waste) 1 roll on a 4 day canoe trip all by myself ! I'm such an ass !!

	It's Nature's Way of Telling You... Posted by: canoeswithduckheads on Mar-20-13 8:48 AM (EST)
	-- Last Updated: Mar-20-13 11:03 AM EST -- ...Somethings Wrong It looks like this here messy caper will roll right past an end on paper to end where some will wail and groan and pine away 'neath non-silent cone, while others thinking "what a joke" scratch more than heads when poison oak leaves their thinking in ways quite rash of what they'd give for smaller ash then desperate men, make no mistake down frightening crevasse begin to snake where scales of injustice now gather in those rattlesnakes that shed their skin.

	Don't remember ........................ Posted by: thebob.com on Mar-20-13 9:18 AM (EST)
	-- Last Updated: Mar-20-13 10:14 AM EST -- Don't remember the trailhead where we entered the Big Horns..........I attended the course quite a few years ago. It was a very challenging experience. Several people (including one instructor) had to be evacuated. I endeavoured to perservere; am happy to report that I was successful. After much experimentation I found that snow can effectively replace TP. Sticks, rocks, and dry leaves are much less effective Pucker factor quite high with snow. Pucker factor also very high when nature called at night. Especially after having observed grizzly bear scat in the area where your camp was made. The ultimate pucker factor was reached when a lightning storm moved in on our camp at the base of a place called Cloud Peak. When metallic pieces of equipment start vibrating and making weird, high pitched noises; you have visions of being turned into what might pass for a roasted marshmallow, or a greasy spot. One of the instructors, standing on the side of the mountain, hollering to the skies, "Is that the best you got old man; I'm still standing here"!!! did not inspire confidence that he would survive, to assist us in our ascent of Cloud Peak the next day. That's how I remember it, but my memory could have been affected by stress. Being forced to go "cold turkey" from cigarettes, beer, wifely companionship, and TP on the day I started the course was a traumatic experience at best. BOB P.S. My apologies to the gods of minimum impact for burying 3 lbs of cous cous. Nobody in my food group would eat that dreck, and I got tired of humping 3 lbs of cous cous through the Big Horn mountains of Wyoming.

	When in the South ,DO NOT USE MOSS Posted by: string on Mar-20-13 1:00 PM (EST)
	or any 3 leaved plants. Any kid who grew up running the woods like I did learned that the hard way. Spanish moss is a favorite home of redbugs(chiggers)and their favorite places to bite are soft and warm.

	how about orange peels? Posted by: slushpaddler on Mar-20-13 5:17 PM (EST)
	;)

	SP, have you been around that long? Posted by: string on Mar-20-13 11:14 PM (EST)
	I bet you haven't won a contest either.

	nope! Posted by: slushpaddler on Mar-21-13 9:05 AM (EST)

	Orange peels............. Posted by: thebob.com on Mar-21-13 10:20 AM (EST)
	-- Last Updated: Mar-21-13 10:25 AM EST -- Fired one warning shot over the head of litter bug throwing orange peels on my lawn last year. Marlin .45-70 I use for warning shots is so loud he involuntarily wet his pants. Heard he is in therapy now for post traumatic stress disorder. :^) BOB

	I would hesitate to try that here. Posted by: string on Mar-21-13 11:20 AM (EST)
	AR 15 are very popular here and I would be afraid that the return fire wouldn't be a warning.

	AR-15 Posted by: thebob.com on Mar-21-13 12:05 PM (EST)
	They sell those in the midwest too. Great for recon by fire, and wasting large amounts of ammunition. I carried one for 3 years in Viet Nam; am quite familiar with it's operation/potential. Overkill for orange peel literers. :^) BOB

	I don't know what to say Posted by: slushpaddler on Mar-21-13 11:57 AM (EST)
	Except maybe, "I have no idea why anyone in this country thinks we have a gun use problem".

	Grain of salt.......... Posted by: thebob.com on Mar-21-13 12:11 PM (EST)
	Application of "taken with a grain of salt" rule is called for following first post mentioning orange peels. BOB

	ah mea culpa Posted by: slushpaddler on Mar-21-13 1:12 PM (EST)

	I feed my orange peels to fire ant Posted by: string on Mar-21-13 10:21 PM (EST)
	mounds. No complaints so far.

	Ever try? Posted by: thebob.com on Mar-21-13 11:15 PM (EST)
	Ever try sprinkling a few grains of salt on the orange peels? Fire ants might like their orange peels salted.

	Aren't they proposing a ban on... Posted by: canoeswithduckheads on Mar-22-13 6:52 AM (EST)
	...folks usin' a salt trifle? String lines up the mound again A R 15 ants emerges fire in the hole god bless his soul orange appealing those clipped scourges?