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  Curiosity off to Mt. Sharp
  Posted by: LeeG on Jul-09-13 8:08 PM (EST)
 

In case anyone forgot


http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/news/msl20130708.html#.Udylecu9KSM

PASADENA, Calif. – With drives on July 4 and July 7, NASA's Mars rover Curiosity has departed its last science target in the "Glenelg" area and commenced a many-month overland journey to the base of the mission's main destination, Mount Sharp.
The rover finished close-up investigation of a target sedimentary outcrop called "Shaler" last week. On July 4, it drove 59 feet (18 meters) away from Shaler. On July 7, a second drive added another 131 feet (40 meters) on the trip toward a destination about 5 miles (8 kilometers) away, the entry to the lower layers of Mount Sharp.
Mount Sharp, in the middle of Gale Crater, exposes many layers where scientists anticipate finding evidence about how the ancient Martian environment changed and evolved. In the Glenelg area, where Curiosity worked for the first half of 2013, the rover found evidence for an ancient wet environment that had conditions favorable for microbial life. This means the mission already accomplished its main science objective.
NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, manages the Mars Science Laboratory Project for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. JPL designed and built the project's Curiosity rover.
More information about Curiosity is online at http://www.nasa.gov/msl and http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/ . You can follow the mission on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/marscuriosity and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/marscuriosity .

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  Interesting, But....
  Posted by: JoeLilydipper on Jul-09-13 9:41 PM (EST)
....what's the point?

I know all the stale old arguments about exploring the solar system, moving to Mars, terraforming the planet and just the basic lure of science, but still....what's the point?

Will this help feed one hungry child, bring justice to the oppressed or ensure my wife wins the Publisher's Clearinghouse Sweepstakes?

Recent experiments have indicated a manned mission to Mars is a one-way trip.

So what's worthwhile about riding around Mars when it's just as deadly to be riding around South Chicago?
 
 
  There is no point
  Posted by: LeeG on Jul-09-13 9:47 PM (EST)
Yr an idiot
 
 
  Bad Memory?
  Posted by: JoeLilydipper on Jul-10-13 5:55 AM (EST)
Sorry I didn't put any smiley faces in the posting.

All I did was parrot the same argument I heard about why we should kill the Apollo program.

I was hoping for a better reason to keep exploration alive than "Yer an idiot."

Maybe next time you could point out R&D benefits to medicine, or the happiness Tang brought to everyone.
 
 
  Send me yr script next time
  Posted by: LeeG on Jul-10-13 6:19 AM (EST)
 
 
  Unethical
  Posted by: JoeLilydipper on Jul-10-13 7:43 AM (EST)
You sound like a politician that wants to see the reporters questions before the news conference.
 
 
  and the computer
  Posted by: radiomix on Jul-10-13 8:04 AM (EST)
 
 
  technology
  Posted by: raddog1 on Jul-10-13 9:54 AM (EST)
exploring and problem solving that got man to the moon reaped a lot of benefits we enjoy today, from medicine materials, clothing and computers.
 
 
  It has fed an assload of kids
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Jul-09-13 10:50 PM (EST)
For those who went to school and got a job with JPL or NASA or about a thousand other contractors.
If your suggesting it would be better to have given the money to crack smoking 5th grade drop outs with 12 kids I disagree.

And the studies done have benefits, pick up a Discover instead of a Maxim sometime.
 
 
  who told you it was a two-way trip?
  Posted by: slushpaddler on Jul-10-13 8:40 AM (EST)
You and SA. sorry, but spend a few minutes on google doing some exploration of your own, regarding the benefits of space exploration to man on earth.

You can't expect NASA to spoon-feed you all of this info, you actually have to put forth some effort yourself.
 
 
  "Get off my lawn!"
  Posted by: rWVen on Jul-10-13 6:46 AM (EST)
"Brace yourself for immediate disintegration."

Marvin the Martian......
 
 
  Now for something useful
  Posted by: rWVen on Jul-10-13 7:20 AM (EST)
http://www.popularmechanics.com/how-to/blog/spacexs-reusable-grasshopper-can-now-fly-to-1000-feet-15672205?click=pm_latest
 
 
  Need more details
  Posted by: LeeG on Jul-10-13 9:18 AM (EST)
Seems to me a lot of fuel is needed to brake for descent , which cuts down on payload a lot. Or down range landing sites are needed for parachute descent then powered landing.
 
 
  That's true
  Posted by: rWVen on Jul-10-13 9:30 AM (EST)
I think this would have to be used in conjunction with aerobraking to be even remotely viable. If a fuel source could be tapped outside of Earth's gravity well...
 
 
  Billion pixel view, and more info
  Posted by: Chris_H on Jul-10-13 8:06 AM (EST)
http://www.universetoday.com/103319/curiosity-rover-embarks-on-epic-trek-to-mount-sharp/

"The overland journey could take nearly a year or even longer into 2014 to arrive at the base of Mount Sharp, depending on what the 1 ton behemoth sees along the way."
"Curiosity must also pass through a potentially treacherous dune field to get there."


 
 
  Spending Money On Science We Don't
  Posted by: SupremelyArrogant on Jul-10-13 10:01 AM (EST)
Need and defending against threats that don't exist is the American way. Love it or leave it I say.
 
 
  yr an idiot
  Posted by: slushpaddler on Jul-10-13 10:29 AM (EST)
I doubt you'd feel that way if your significant other or daughter's lives had been saved by NASA research.
 
 
  science
  Posted by: radiomix on Jul-10-13 11:14 AM (EST)
Is the only reason you live where you live. Your love for solar panels was aided by space research.

Ryan L.
 
 
  excellent
  Posted by: slushpaddler on Jul-10-13 12:23 PM (EST)
 
 
  Are there yet?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Jul-10-13 10:27 AM (EST)
 
 
  NASA's 2020 Mars Rover
  Posted by: Chris_H on Jul-10-13 12:30 PM (EST)
http://www.universetoday.com/103367/nasas-2020-mars-rover-to-seek-signs-of-past-life-and-collect-samples-for-earth-return/

From link:
The 2020 goals were laid out publicly today (July 9) by a panel of scientists on the ‘Science Definition Team’ and charged by NASA with defining the key science objectives for the new mission.

The Mars 2020 ‘Science Definition Team’ (SDT) is comprised of 19 scientists and engineers from academia and industry. They were appointed by NASA in January 2013 to thoroughly and quickly evaluate a wide range of options to accomplish the highest priority planetary science objectives and achieve President Obama’s challenge to send humans to Mars in the 2030s.


Everything NASA does is budget driven and the fiscal climate is rather gloomy right now.


 
 
  Dateline 2029
  Posted by: Ayornamut on Jul-11-13 9:02 AM (EST)
"President Obama's challenge to send humans to Mar has been delayed by a decade, it was announced today, to give further time to study impacts and costs of implementation. Meanwhile, implementation of Obamacare was delayed yet another year, for similar reasons."

(on the latter, one could only hope)
 
 
  Are we there yet?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Jul-10-13 2:18 PM (EST)
 
 
  Are we there yet?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Jul-11-13 8:06 AM (EST)
 
 
  3"/sec.
  Posted by: LeeG on Jul-11-13 8:50 AM (EST)
May take awhile
 
 
  Did it find any AGW?
  Posted by: Ayornamut on Jul-11-13 8:57 AM (EST)
How's the Martian 'peak oil' situation?

I'll bet those Martians didn't listen to you and Algore, did they?
 
 
  Are we there yet?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Jul-13-13 9:48 AM (EST)
 
 
  Are we there yet?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Jul-16-13 7:51 AM (EST)
 
 
  Are we there yet?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Jul-19-13 1:31 PM (EST)
 
 
  Not yet
  Posted by: LeeG on Jul-19-13 1:48 PM (EST)
 
 
  Are we there yet?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Jul-25-13 7:38 AM (EST)
 
 
  I have to go to the
  Posted by: Ayornamut on Jul-25-13 7:44 AM (EST)
-- Last Updated: Jul-25-13 7:46 AM EST --

bathroom....!
http://tinyurl.com/lnrtgn5

 
 
  Are we there yet?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Aug-01-13 8:20 AM (EST)
 
 
  my children still say that
  Posted by: betmkaplan on Aug-02-13 7:21 PM (EST)
and they are 36 & 33. ^_^
 
 
  700 meters in four weeks
  Posted by: LeeG on Aug-02-13 11:39 PM (EST)
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2013-240
 
 
  Are we there yet?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Aug-15-13 4:52 PM (EST)
 
 
  Are we there yet?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Aug-26-13 8:11 PM (EST)
 
 
  Are we there yet?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Sep-05-13 10:29 PM (EST)
 
 
  8km to go
  Posted by: LeeG on Sep-06-13 6:03 AM (EST)
 
 
  by my calculations, arrival will be...
  Posted by: betmkaplan on Sep-06-13 10:10 AM (EST)
If Curiosity has travelled 700 m in 4 weeks, then
700 meters/28 days= 8000 meters/x, yielding x=320 days.
that's 80 more weeks.
Unless I missed something.
I hope I live that long.
I might be collecting Social Security by then.
Are we there yet?
Kaps
 
 
  I was with you until
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Sep-06-13 12:50 PM (EST)
320 days = 80 weeks but then I never did understand metric
 
 
  never a slip tween the cup and the lip,
  Posted by: betmkaplan on Sep-06-13 2:26 PM (EST)
-- Last Updated: Sep-06-13 2:27 PM EST --

but 320/7=45.71 weeks.
Doh!
I especially like your sly comment about metric misunderstandings.

 
 
  Are we there yet?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Sep-19-13 11:31 PM (EST)
 
 
  Can I get a glass of water
  Posted by: Pirateoverforty on Sep-27-13 1:27 PM (EST)
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/wow-moment-curiosity-finds-water-mars-common-dirt-8C11270152
 
 
  Mars is closed
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Oct-03-13 12:25 AM (EST)
Due to the lapse in federal government funding, this website is not available.
We sincerely regret this inconvenience.
For information about available government services, visit USA.gov.
 
 
  if you are already on Mars
  Posted by: slushpaddler on Oct-03-13 8:49 AM (EST)
You have two days to pack and depart.
 
 
  Call AAA!
  Posted by: Ayornamut on Oct-03-13 8:53 AM (EST)
They operate outside of any government service dependence.
 
 
  Are we there yet?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Oct-24-13 12:55 AM (EST)
Mars is open again!
 
 
  You know what I like about
  Posted by: Ayornamut on Oct-24-13 8:19 AM (EST)
"Curiosity"?

No carbon footprint!! No greenhouse gases!!

Yep, it is ecologically clean.
LeeG could only wish we had more cars powered like that..whoop, whoop, whoop!
 
 
  That figues
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Oct-24-13 6:55 PM (EST)
The one place we need an atmosphere....
 
 
  Thx for the reminder
  Posted by: LeeG on Oct-24-13 9:06 PM (EST)
I forgot
 
 
  Do I smell curry?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Nov-06-13 10:52 PM (EST)
 
 
  This is HP customer service
  Posted by: slushpaddler on Nov-07-13 7:33 AM (EST)
Please call back when the VanAllen belts clear.
 
 
  The next stop
  Posted by: Chris_H on Nov-07-13 8:01 AM (EST)
The next stop could be very puzzling.
http://www.lionheart-designs.com/inventory/jigsaw%20puzzles/Explore%20America/Cooperstown%20NY%20Jigsaw%20Puzzle%201000%20piece.JPG
 
 
  Are we there yet?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Nov-16-13 7:56 AM (EST)
 
 
  Are we there yet?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Nov-27-13 7:46 AM (EST)
 
 
  On the road again *
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Dec-04-13 8:21 AM (EST)
* Sing it like Willie does

http://www.spacenews.com/article/civil-space/38442curiosity-rover-bounces-back-from-electrical-glitch
 
 
  Good thing
  Posted by: Ayornamut on Dec-04-13 8:46 AM (EST)
-- Last Updated: Dec-04-13 8:47 AM EST --

Delhi tech support is on the way.

Can't wait for the Bollywood version of this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhpq2oDPT9w

 
 
  Are we there yet?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Dec-21-13 11:18 AM (EST)
 
 
  I got a Mars Rover i. My stocking
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Dec-26-13 9:59 AM (EST)
Hot Wheels makes them. Thought that was pretty neat. Nerds like Hot Wheels too.
 
 
  So where the hell is it?
  Posted by: LeeG on Dec-29-13 6:58 PM (EST)
 
 
  Pictures from the road
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Jan-12-14 10:09 PM (EST)
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mars-rover-curiosity-spotted-from-space-photos/
 
 
  Are we there yet?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Feb-05-14 12:06 PM (EST)
 
 
  Well, we are there virtually.
  Posted by: Chris_H on Feb-06-14 3:27 PM (EST)
Great interactive panoramic from Curiosity
http://www.universetoday.com/109034/new-interactive-panorama-shows-curiositys-view-from-the-dingo-gap-sand-dune/
 
 
  Danger! Curiosity At 'Dingo Gap.'
  Posted by: JoeLilydipper on Feb-06-14 4:52 PM (EST)
"Everybody...watch your babies!"
 
 
  Ouch
  Posted by: LeeG on Feb-06-14 9:10 PM (EST)
-- Last Updated: Feb-06-14 9:12 PM EST --

http://d1jqu7g1y74ds1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Curiosity-Sol-529_2Da_underbelly_Ken-Kremer-.jpg


http://d1jqu7g1y74ds1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Curiosity-Sol-490-wheel-Aa_Ken-Kremer.jpg

More metal next time

 
 
  Are we there yet?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Mar-06-14 11:41 AM (EST)
 
 
  Are we thee yet?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Mar-25-14 8:49 AM (EST)
 
 
  Are we there yet?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Apr-01-14 2:09 AM (EST)
 
 
  We are here
  Posted by: LesG on Apr-01-14 3:06 AM (EST)
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/images/Curiosiy_Location_Sol581-full.jpg
 
 
  Are we there yet?
  Posted by: pirateoverforty on Apr-15-14 2:29 AM (EST)
 

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