I'm beginning to get the feeling that I'm going to need a three piece boat to travel to places that don't have very good (for lack of a better word) boats to rent. Anyone out there in paddleland have experience with the costs and hassles of dealing with a three piece composite boat while traveling about the world? Flying will be the first mode of transport, but then I may need a bus or taxi or burro after that. I can also imagine needing info on pack and two wheel cart options for moving the boat about while I'm also carrying all my paddle gear. Thanks for any insight.------------Kevin
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Much easier to travel with a folder|
Posted by: tsunamichuck on Jan-18-08 10:09 PM (EST)
The Great Swami has your answers.|
Posted by: cd1 on Jan-19-08 8:02 AM (EST)
I did travel quite a bit with a K Light|
Posted by: tsunamichuck on Jan-19-08 10:47 AM (EST)
and it is real easy to travel with and get together and apart. Not a fast boat and limitted space for gear but a great take along boat. The Khatsalano is a bit heavier and takes about an hour to assemble, but a great play boat and a decent tourer.
Thanks for responses-more succinct|
Posted by: kblackyak on Jan-20-08 10:16 PM (EST)
I neglected to read the archives, which were very helpful. I need to be more succinct. I am looking at buying either a 3 piece Explorer or Greenlander Pro or Nordkapp, to cut to the chase. Folders won't handle the conditions I want to paddle, and the Khats is too soft- plus I had an unfortunate experience with a khats paddler breaking my 400 dollar Lendal over the bottom of his hull during a paddle-presentation eskimo rescue. My fault, but I'm scarred for life and those Khats are very slippery to hang onto in rescue circumstances. Plus the idea of a sea sock grosses me out- perhaps I'm becoming narrow minded.
Baggage handlers are assholes|
Posted by: tsunamichuck on Jan-20-08 10:48 PM (EST)
and airlines basically will try and soak you with oversized fees so tack on $200- $300 for each round trip ticket. Expect major shit from European airlines, the Asian ones will likely let you slide. I purchased my 3 piece Kapp from Rob and he suggested strapping 2 sections together to save on baggage fees. Carry extra straps to secure your boat on taxis etc and just plan on hiring porters at your destination.
This will give you some idea...|
Posted by: gstamer on Jan-20-08 11:50 PM (EST)
Here's personal gear and three kayaks, Freya's (3-piece [S]explorer, 3-piece Rockpool, and 4-piece Qaannaq) bagged and ready for loading in the car (kayaks are in the five large bags), when we flew from Germany to Newfoundland last year to teach; http://www.qajaqusa.org/temp/NF_packing.jpg
Wheeled Hockey Bag?|
Posted by: wetzool on Feb-01-08 11:17 PM (EST)
You might look at hockey bags. The biggest are for goalie equipment. See you\meet you at Sweetwater?
Sectional cost is a factor.|
Posted by: cD1 on Jan-21-08 7:52 AM (EST)
Late post: link to past thread.|
Posted by: cd1 on Feb-01-08 4:37 AM (EST)
Bolts may not be stronger|
Posted by: kelvin1 on Feb-01-08 5:39 AM (EST)
I've seen the bulkhead pull away from the hull on a three piece NDK Explorer in a hard surf landing. The kayak had clips on the deck and two bolts in each bulkhead.
Posted by: old_user on Feb-01-08 9:33 AM (EST)
Church of Rev Black|
Posted by: old_user on Feb-01-08 6:31 PM (EST)
if i was a betting man|
Posted by: medicineman on Feb-02-08 2:39 AM (EST)
i'd be that the FC khat could take far greater a blow than any composite...
Medicineman, I sold Tsunami Chuck|
Posted by: old_user on Feb-02-08 8:00 PM (EST)
his 3 piece Nordkapp. It was bomber in the surf, I assure you. The limit of my "testing" was 8' faces, long period. Lots of energy to ring my bell. TC's boat is as tough as nails and should I be in the market for another 3 piece, the Valley system served me well and I'd probably go that way. That said, NDK and Rockpools system looks good, but to me the gold standard is the 4 bolt Valley system.
I am more worried about baggage handlers|
Posted by: tsunamichuck on Feb-02-08 10:14 PM (EST)
than surf. I had the pleasure of watching some dedicated United Airlines baggage handlers drop my Khats 15 ft from the cargo hold to the ground. No worse for wear.
My 1st impression was nuh-uh.|
Posted by: magoo_ns on Feb-02-08 9:43 PM (EST)
Picked up Freya Hoffmeister at Halifax Int'l Airport on the occasion of Wendy Killoran's epic Newfoundland circumnav a couple years ago.