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Here my my past post about take apart kayaks, like Freya's Explorer. Thanks for your replies.
I have an itch for a take apart. Why are these not more popular? Some added weight from the bolts and fixtures? Price?
A tandem would seem to be a no-brainer as a take apart; even in 2 sections, a 21 footer is down to a manageable 10.5 feet per section.
Which is better, a three piecer, or a four piecer? Anyone have the latter?
Short jaunts to the local lake, who wouold bother with a take-apart. But weeklong vacations and such, these would seem to be more practical than a folder or a blow up, if one were doing some serious kayaking. What do you think, esp owners of them now? Thanks
PS here is a Pnet ad with a three piece, click for photo, and More Info for more infi. I see they are indeed pricey. Ouch.,
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Posted by: sing on Dec-10-06 7:49 PM (EST)
Folders can take much more|
Posted by: tsunamichuck on Dec-10-06 8:12 PM (EST)
abuse from baggage handlers. But you are right, they are not practical for serious kayaking. Guess Eric Stiller, John Goddard, Dr Ruth and Hans Lindemann need to be informed.
Posted by: sing on Dec-10-06 8:27 PM (EST)
didn't realize you were just some lilydipper with that folder of yours. Should have told me before we headed out last time to the tip of Nahant in the interesting stuff.
Should have told myself before|
Posted by: tsunamichuck on Dec-10-06 8:41 PM (EST)
I paddled it from Okinawa to Amami :+)
Whoa whoa, wait a sec.|
Posted by: CD1 on Dec-10-06 8:27 PM (EST)
I was referring to this type of folder.
Take aparts are good for air travel|
Posted by: old_user on Dec-10-06 10:20 PM (EST)
3 piece Explorer|
Posted by: kelvin1 on Dec-11-06 4:07 AM (EST)
I have a three piece explorer and even in three pieces it still takes up a lot of space and is heavy. This means it is expensive to fly with which is how I came to purchase it for a good price.
Kelvin, NT, TSC, sing, etc. question|
Posted by: CD1 on Dec-11-06 7:11 AM (EST)
When you fly, your folder is I think in two bags, right? Do some come in three bags? Do you check them no issues with the airlines? Surcharge (i.e. are the bags over 50 lbs?)? Are they safe from the gorilla baggage handlers in just the bags that they come in when you buy them, or do you have to pad the bag or buy some other padded bag? Ever have damage from flying?
My Feathercraft and gear|
Posted by: tsunamichuck on Dec-11-06 10:21 AM (EST)
Posted by: sing on Dec-11-06 10:30 AM (EST)
on the waveski each way.
Posted by: Kelvin1 on Dec-12-06 6:33 AM (EST)
My explorer is an early three piece version and I believe later ones are lighter. Waterfield in Japan make a 4 piece which is very light and the pieces fit inside each other to make two pieces of luggage.
Got a Waterfield link?|
Posted by: CD1 on Dec-12-06 7:14 AM (EST)
Posted by: tsunamichuck on Dec-12-06 10:32 AM (EST)
Posted by: CD1 on Dec-12-06 8:18 PM (EST)
Posted by: old_user on Dec-11-06 4:49 PM (EST)
I have bothe a 3 piece and a folder and they give you different experiences on a trip. The 3 piece is harder to transport and move around than the folder. I prefer a hardshell in loading and unloading at the start and end of each day because of the hatches. I also prefer their lack of vulnerability in navigating through surf zones. My buddy's rear hatch imploded in his Feathercraft K1 when he got trashed by a gnarly dumper in Costa Rica and put half a foot of water throughout the boat. The roll top drybag style needs to be supported underneath by something to prevent implosion. On the water I'm fine with either but I'm faster in the Nordkapp but more stable in the Khats. The Nordkapp is heavier at 67 pounds vs 52 for the Khats. The Nordkapp is simpler to put together on the beach. It's all 6's or pairs of 3 what you prefer as they both have plus's and minus's. I am selling my Nordkapp as I don't have a need for 2 expedition style hardshells and a Feathercraft. Thanks for bringing this up as I forgot to renew my 4sale ad in the classifieds.
not worth it.|
Posted by: old_user on Dec-11-06 5:24 PM (EST)
damn, that aint cheap. I don't think you should spent 3 times more on a kayak so it's take-apart.
It is a reasonable price|
Posted by: tsunamichuck on Dec-11-06 9:16 PM (EST)
Maybe you should paddle more and play video games less. You are at risk for becoming Poser_K
But I dont play video games|
Posted by: old_user on Dec-11-06 9:23 PM (EST)
Posted by: old_user on Dec-13-06 4:39 PM (EST)
Actually, it looks like Pamlico140 spends his time studying Physics. Then he posts simple questions and gets multiple people to answer them wrong. I don't know how he did it, but he's good.
Another take apart|
Posted by: old_user on Dec-11-06 5:50 PM (EST)
In addition to the tap ND Explorer, Easy Rider makes a few TAP's.
Posted by: sing on Dec-11-06 6:54 PM (EST)
man, Tom's been really busy since I last checked. He must have doubled the number of his designs.
I once saw an Impex Montauk|
Posted by: old_user on Dec-11-06 7:08 PM (EST)
instantly converted from a one-piece to a thousand-piece boat on the S-curves of I-5 in Seattle. At 60, the shatterage was dramatic, immediate, and spectacular. For details, contact Sean McClure of Alder Creek in Portland.
I've always thought|
Posted by: old_user on Dec-12-06 1:47 PM (EST)
the end part of a take apart would be stronger than the bulkhead of a one piece.