Kokotat, Stohlquist, and perhaps others seem to be offering neo gaskets for some of their drysuits.
My take from the ads is that the neo gaskets are more comfortable, but not necessarily 100% watertight.
Anyone have experience with both that someone considering a drysuit purchase would benefit from?
Also... is a relief zipper worth $150?
(Note & Disclaimer: I figured this would be covered in the archives, but maybe I'm searching wrong 'cause I didn't find clear feedback on it... so I apologize if I'm covering old ground)
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neoprene gaskets typically aren't dry...|
Posted by: schizopak on Mar-23-06 9:46 AM (EST)
Zipper very Valuable!|
Posted by: wjlatsha on Mar-23-06 1:51 PM (EST)
When you are wearing a dry, or semi-dry suit, your layers under the suit absorb perspiration. Because of this, it can be very difficult to wiggle out of the suit. A relief zipper can be worth it's weight in gold for when you really have to go!
Relief zipper and latex gaskets|
Posted by: wilsoj2 on Mar-23-06 3:01 PM (EST)
Posted by: chodups on Mar-23-06 3:02 PM (EST)
Priceless! That's not the place to save money. I get such a kick out of watching the contortions that my zipperless paddling buddy goes through to pee.
YES - booties/socks!|
Posted by: wilsoj2 on Mar-23-06 5:02 PM (EST)
I think I like my booties/socks in my suits even more than the relief zippers.
I paddle with|
Posted by: salty on Mar-23-06 7:54 PM (EST)
a dry top / deck one piece that has latex at wrists, and neo around neck with an elastic strap snugging deal. It's WAY nicer in the surf and I don't get the rash on my neck. It appears really pretty dry. The odd drop of water may purge through during a pummel, but I'm no less dry after a couple of hours. I'd highly recommend neo at the neck.
that sounds like my dry deck|
Posted by: schizopak on Mar-23-06 9:18 PM (EST)
I've not a couple dry decks and my PeakUK deck has the tightening neoprene neck which does work nicely as you can tighten it as far as you are comfortable. I also have a fully gasketed dry deck which I wear in colder water.
tried to get kokatat to mod my Meridian|
Posted by: medicineman on Mar-23-06 10:16 PM (EST)
by removing the latex neck gasket and installing the neoprene punch through type they use on the Tropos...this after testing a 'paddling suit' recently, and after realizing that the last time i had an unintentional wet exit was 12 years ago, and after realizing that if wearing a pfd my head is up, going to be up fairly quickly and the small amount of water the neoprene would let in is insignificant, and realizing that i would wear the drysuit (but wouldnt be tech. a drysuit anymore) more frequently with the mod.....so Kokatat said no, tried Amigo's druisuit gasket repair service and they said no too.
I double up...|
Posted by: schizopak on Mar-23-06 10:45 PM (EST)
I wear a two piece dry suit with a shorty top and I wear the tuilik over it. I love the tuilik for its warmth and comfort but in the middle of winter on Lake Michigan, I want my dry fleece layers on underneath as well.
You answered my next question|
Posted by: old_user on Mar-24-06 6:19 AM (EST)
Why can't a neoprene neck gasket be fitted with a ratcheting strap to tighten it up when needed?
Posted by: schizopak on Mar-24-06 7:44 AM (EST)
and I think it's a perfect compromise solution that partially addresses the stretch factor associated with neoprene. Unfortunately very few companies offer this. Here's a PeakUK top which has this tightening system on the nect and arms. From experience, you can make this VERY tight and although it is still not equal to latex gaskets, it's reasonably dry.
If it's adjustable...|
Posted by: bnystrom on Mar-24-06 8:21 AM (EST)
...it will bunch up when you tighten it, just like neopren collars and cuffs on paddling jackets do. When neoprene bunches, it creates channels for water to flow through.
There is an alternative|
Posted by: falcon on Mar-24-06 10:08 AM (EST)
Reed Chillcheater products use Aquatherm gaskets for both the neck and wrists of paddlesuits, long and short sleeve dry tops and bibs. The Aquatherm Superstretch material is a coated fabric with exceptional stretch and when fitted properly, provides excellent seal. The gastkets are tear resistant (as in, I have never heard of one ripping), UV resistant and seemingly unaffected by chlorine. A little harder to pull over head and hands than latex, but well worth the extra effort. Available at speciality paddlesports shops or on line at www.secondwindsports.net/products
relief zippers when it's cold|
Posted by: peter_k on Mar-25-06 3:27 PM (EST)
are very valuable. If you go on long paddles and have to get out of the suit three of four times over the course of a paddle.........