Saddles, Cradles, Stackers???
Posted by: sprockets on Jun-11-14 6:47 AM (EST) Category: unassigned
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I'm still working to get my Prius set to haul 2 kayaks. I can fit 1 inside if it is just me, with about 2' hanging out the back.
I just bought a set of Yakima Q-Towers, 58" bars, locks and an SUP rack for $100 off Craigslist. It's like new! What a deal.
Now I need to decide what style accessory to buy to transport 2 kayaks on top. I'm 6'1" so I can reach the roof of the Prius easily. My kayaks each weigh 49lbs. They are Kestrel 120 Rotomolds.
It seems the stackers can be a pain to keep in position while strapping down. The J-Cradles seem the most natural position to set the kayaks down.
Any advice here? There are so many different models of these and I've read a bunch of the reviews.
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Our stackers stay put OK|
Posted by: Celia on Jun-11-14 7:53 AM (EST)
We run the straps thru the stackers before putting up the boats, going to have to do that anyway with boats that wide, and the stackers don't wander around really. I might have to reach up and make one more vertical if a boat has gone up to with a lot of sliding is all.
Posted by: Marshall on Jun-11-14 9:35 AM (EST)
Stackers work well but make sure your parked on a level surface especially with round bars. I've taken off a side mirror with a kayak guillotine before. Glad it wasn't my foot in the kayak drop zone.
Posted by: sprockets on Jun-11-14 9:46 AM (EST)
Here in Florida there aren't a lot of hills so it shouldn't be too bad. I'll see if I can find a good stacker unit. I also need to find the proper Q clips for my car and sell the ones these racks came with.
Posted by: slushpaddler on Jun-11-14 10:16 AM (EST)
Just never had the problem you described, IMO they're easier to load than j cradles. They weigh much less and tighten up once you tie a boat down.
For my take:|
Posted by: jackL on Jun-11-14 1:46 PM (EST)
Saddles are the best. J cradles second and stackers last.
Posted by: sprockets on Jun-11-14 1:54 PM (EST)
Like most questions like this it seems there is no definitive answer. Some suggest stackers first and saddles last, some the opposite. On price alone, the stackers make the most sense. I believe the Malone Stax comes with contoured foam pads for the bars which is appealing.
Posted by: Marshall on Jun-11-14 2:33 PM (EST)
As a DIY-lowest cost project that imitates a stacker;
Posted by: sprockets on Jun-11-14 3:20 PM (EST)
That would be the cheap way out! I'll keep an eye on Craigslist and Ebay. Still not sure whether to go stacker, J-cradle or saddles though. Seems to be no clear winner.
on round bars|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Jun-11-14 3:48 PM (EST)
anything you mount will be challenging to keep from rotating. IMO a set of stackers presents greater capacity.
Think about this..|
Posted by: tjalmy on Jun-11-14 7:45 PM (EST)
the stackers allow you to hold the boat more vertically, and could allow you room for three boats up there. They offer very little surface area touching your boat hull and may allow the plastic to indent in the nice warm Florida sun.
Expanding on TJ's note|
Posted by: Marshall on Jun-11-14 11:49 PM (EST)
Marco Kayak Saddles - big broad felt lines for slide 'em up loading. Made in FL. Aero Bar model clamps on most crossbars up to 3.5" wide. As size does matter - for spreading g the load the 12"x20" cradle is especially gentle provided you don't go ape on strap tension. Taut is good, crushing force is bad.
again - never had that experience|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Jun-12-14 12:31 PM (EST)
Posted by: fatelmo on Jun-12-14 12:53 PM (EST)
Sure be glad ah's a canooist. None o' all dat high-fellootin' stuff needed.
psst...here's a secret|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Jun-12-14 2:08 PM (EST)
(kayakers really don't need it either. Just ask anyone who ships kayaks)
Posted by: eckilson on Jun-13-14 7:25 AM (EST)
Posted by: slushpaddler on Jun-13-14 9:04 AM (EST)
you might even have been able to squeeze a bicycle onto one of the sides.
Load bar spacing matters when |
Posted by: Yanoer on Jun-13-14 6:13 PM (EST)
transporting kayaks on paddled bars, since many kayak decks are pointy just in front of the cockpit.
Saddles, Cradles, Stackers???|
Posted by: adkjoe on Jun-12-14 9:22 PM (EST)
We use two J cradles and throw two kayaks into the car (Chrysler Town & Country). However for our summer trip traveling Vermont, New Hampshire & Maine we were considering the stackers to carry all four. Searching Craigslist I found a 11X6 flat utility trailer for $200.00… Invested $50.00 in new lumber to re-deck it because it was used to haul lawn tractors. Problem solved!
I have used all 3 and for me, saddles |
Posted by: string on Jun-12-14 11:09 PM (EST)
are the best.Definitely the easiest to load and unload.
You missed one|
Posted by: carldelo on Jun-13-14 10:49 AM (EST)
V-bars are hands-down the easiest to load and unload, under 5 minutes for one boat. I had saddles and absolutely could not deal with how long it took to get everything loaded and secured to my liking. Plus you can get two 24" wide boats loaded deck-up on a small car with a couple of inches between them. The downside is size, and to a lesser extent, weight. Depending on the design of the crossbars, they can be fiddly to remove from the car between trips too.
5min? More like 30 seconds :)|
Posted by: Kocho on Jun-13-14 1:39 PM (EST)
Question for sprockets|
Posted by: Rookie on Jun-13-14 4:19 PM (EST)
How did you keep your hatch tied down when transporting the kayak inside? From the inside or outside?
Posted by: sprockets on Jun-14-14 2:28 PM (EST)
I used a strap through the lift ring under the bumper up through the latch on the hatch. The kayak was wrapped in an old comforter. I wasn't driving very far so as long as it was snug it was fine. Worst part is the "door open" beep was constant. I need to get the local dealer to change the setting to one beep.
whichever way you go...when straps are|
Posted by: bigspencer on Jun-14-14 2:32 PM (EST)
to be used...try to grab the widest = less prone to create an indentation when tied down tight + vertical & 3D jostling over rough roads.
Have used all 3|
Posted by: pikabike on Jun-17-14 1:58 PM (EST)
Saddles on rooftop, J-bars and stackers on trailer.
Posted by: sprockets on Jun-30-14 7:56 AM (EST)
Thought I'd bump this to the top. Good discussion of pros and cons of each style.
congratulations and kudos|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Jun-30-14 10:23 AM (EST)
...to you for finding a used set, recycling and not paying the extortionary sum that the big two ask for their rack components. Well done!
Folding J-Cradles and Stackers|
Posted by: hondafamily88 on Jun-30-14 8:44 AM (EST)
I use Malone Stax Pro2 stackers when I carry more than two kayaks.