Old Town Discovery 119
Posted by: adkjoe on Jun-09-14 3:29 PM (EST) Category: Canoes
Looking at the Discovery 119 solo canoe as I want to replace my kayak. Want to do some flat water, river and lakes camping. Would this be a good boat? I like the weight and the price...
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My first solo canoe was roughly similar|
Posted by: ezwater on Jun-09-14 3:50 PM (EST)
in size. At times, its small size made it fun to paddle, but it didn't carry much camping gear, and when it was loaded with camping gear, it didn't cover ground or keep up with other boats very well.
Posted by: kayamedic on Jun-09-14 4:20 PM (EST)
Used tripping solos can go for a similar price. There is a reason canoe trippers buy a longer boat for camping. They are quicker..handy for when waves kick up and you need to get somewhere. They handle a lot more gear while maintaining safe freeboard.
Posted by: adkjoe on Jun-09-14 8:08 PM (EST)
Thank you for the insight… I have always been partial to Old Town canoes. I use to have a Discovery 164 and I loved it but ever since I lost more than 100 lbs I couldn't lift it… Trying a solo Wenonah next Monday. Paddling place claims its about $900 which is still budget friendly but I might have to wait a bit longer. We live a few hours from the ADK's and that is one of my places I love to paddle. Planning a trip next year on part of the NFCT in New Hampshire.
Posted by: meopilite on Jun-09-14 10:58 PM (EST)
the disco 158 is an option. I have this canoe and solo it often. Just through a little weight up front or squat between yoke and thwart. I use a canoe cart so the weight isnt really an issue.
If you want a solo canoe...|
Posted by: al_a on Jun-10-14 12:08 AM (EST)
get a solo canoe, not a small tandem. Sure, you can paddle a small tandem solo, but it won't handle like a solo and it won't be as much fun. Plus, one of the beauties of solo canoes is that they ARE light. No solo canoe should weigh more than 45 pounds. So why get a tandem Disco that will weigh a lot more than that?
Old Town Discovery 119|
Posted by: adkjoe on Jun-10-14 9:59 AM (EST)
Hi guys, thank you for all your input. I'm excited to say I just scored a mint condition Old Town Pack for $350.00. Been thinking hard and I am going to keep the kayak and next year invest in either a proper solo canoe or and Old Town canoe for my sons and I to trip with. Either way I think it's safe to say one cannot have too many boats. They all serve a purpose. Anyone have a OT Pack?
I still say they're both toys, the D119|
Posted by: ezwater on Jun-11-14 3:30 PM (EST)
and the Pack.
Posted by: rnsparky on Jun-10-14 9:35 AM (EST)
and sold it. Stick with a kayak if you like to paddle seated.
The "seated" aspect is arguable|
Posted by: Guideboatguy on Jun-10-14 9:44 AM (EST)
I paddle while kneeling most of the time, but not everyone does. No matter what, many of the reasons a person might prefer a canoe over a kayak remain the same regardless of the paddling position.
Posted by: JIMmcC on Jun-10-14 1:18 PM (EST)
$350 is a great price for the OT Pack. I tried one a while back, and it was so tippy I couldn't wait to get off of it.
Posted by: al_a on Jun-10-14 11:09 PM (EST)
because the seat is placed too far back. The 119 seat is placed a little farther forward, near the widest part of the canoe, and even though the hull shape is very similar between the two, the 119 feels more stable as is. I owned a Pack long enough to wear out the bottom, install skid plates, and wear through the skid plates (doing a LOT of bony creeks). Like you, when I first got it I thought it was pretty tippy feeling, but I moved the seat forward to where the front edge of the seat was just about at the center of the canoe, and it made all the difference in the world. It became a very initially stable canoe, and even tracked better.
Posted by: adkjoe on Jun-11-14 6:19 AM (EST)
Thank you for the insight. Would have never thought of moving seat forward. Interesting….
If you move the seat so the front|
Posted by: kayamedic on Jun-11-14 8:14 AM (EST)
Good point on the ADK...|
Posted by: al_a on Jun-11-14 2:02 PM (EST)
I can see kneeling as being desirable or necessary in big lake wave action.
Old Town Discovery 119|
Posted by: adkjoe on Jun-12-14 9:12 PM (EST)
Trust me when I say I'm confused about a canoe. I'm picking up the OT Pack on Monday and definitely plan to play. However I have drooled for years over the Penobscott 17 and I think I will invest in one come Spring. From what I understand OT has stockpiled enough royalex to make it through 2015.
You'll like the Penobscot.|
Posted by: al_a on Jun-13-14 9:12 PM (EST)
I've owned three Penobscot 16s, and have paddled the 17s. One of the best Royalex tandems ever made, in my opinion.