Hi! I'm new here so if this is in the wrong place, mods please help me out and set me straight.
I'm here because I need a new boat. Righty now I paddle an old Blue Hole Sunburst II, and I love that boat. Got it as a beginner it was a free boat from a neighbor. I love it's maneuverability and I don't get bored in it. Big boats without rocker make me uncomfortable because I can't make them turn, and I find that pretty scary. I also only like to paddle solo.
Downside, it's heavy. And on long trips it wears me out keeping it straight.
I do a lot of shorter weekend trips, and every year I paddle 120 miles on the James river. Some of those days are over 20 miles, in slower water, class I or II rapids, just chilling out.
This year I'm adding the kids in the mix. They are five and seven, and have been in kayaks since they were three. Michael has an axiom and ashby in the vaya. They've done a week on the San Juan river last summer rafting, but never an extended trip in their kayaks.
The sunburst is gonna work me on this trip. I need a river cruiser with some moderate rocker so It's still fun to play around with, agile enough to chase down kiddos, but still tracks good enough for a twenty mile relatively flat water paddle. And stable enough to help the boys in their boats. I'll be with lots of people, but I like to be able to move my own boat so weight is definitely a factor. I pack really light, cargo is important but I could get all I need in the sunburst easily so I'm not too worried about that.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on suitable canoes for me - or any other gear recommendations really. Price isn't terribly a factor, as I'll likely keep this canoe for the next decade and I'll hang on to the sunburst anyway cuz it's just so much damn fun (and free).
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Posted by: WeeHooker on May-08-14 8:27 AM (EST)
It's hard to find one boat that does everything and choosing a boat is a ersonal choice based on need vd budget. That said, if you think the only issue with your Blue hole is the weight, then I would shop for something in roylex that has VERY similar spcecs ( width, length, chine profile, rocker,etc.)
In between sunburst and a Coleman boat :|
Posted by: flybynite on May-08-14 8:45 AM (EST)
I'd say that there are three problems with the blue hole. I'd like something that tracks better, weighs less and can handle me leaning way out of it to kid wrangle, without completely sacrificing playability. I'm miserable in multiple old town rec boats I been in - just too big and clunky (not that they probably don't make one I'd love?) . or a boats spec'd for fishing. Just looking for somebody who has something they like who thinks like me - to share their experience. I guess I'm looking for a slightly more aggressive smaller canoe than your typical drunk redneck couple in a canoe boat. Am I asking too much?? Lol!
Posted by: pgeorg on May-08-14 9:24 AM (EST)
is a boat that fits nicely between the Sunburst and a boat that would be hard-tracking. I have both a Sunburst I and a Souhegan. I use the Souhegan when I do not need the extreme manueverabilty or the toughness of the Sunburst.
Posted by: flybynite on May-08-14 1:18 PM (EST)
That looks like a really great boat, and I think I'd love it. I really like that's it's designed for poling, because I really enjoy that though it can be awful tricky in the sunburst, especially if there is any wind. But I'm a little nervous about a composite boat's durability. Should I be?? Just haven't ever been exposed to one and I'm comfortable with what I know... That doesn't always make it right though. Thanks a lot for your reply.
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Posted by: Guideboatguy on May-08-14 2:26 PM (EST)
Bob (thebob.com on here) has a|
Posted by: deuce on May-08-14 2:51 PM (EST)
Clipper Prospector for sale. I think he's asking $600. Very nice condition as I recall.
I wish it wasn't in MO. nm|
Posted by: davbart on May-08-14 4:19 PM (EST)
Mohawk odyssey - supernova |
Posted by: flybynite on May-08-14 9:39 PM (EST)
I'vy actually paddled that odyssey 14 before, and it was a blast. It was a lighter, sleeker more agile version of what I've got, so you're right there.Ii loved it.
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Posted by: ezwater on May-08-14 11:26 PM (EST)
gear, the MR Guide Solo is just a bit small. Odyssey might be also.
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Posted by: flybynite on May-09-14 9:20 AM (EST)
I agree with you on all points. I think what I'm getting here are better versions of the sunburst. I
Get them up on either side of the bow, |
Posted by: ezwater on May-09-14 9:25 AM (EST)
each with a paddle, and you've got Cab Forward Power!
Posted by: flybynite on May-09-14 9:31 AM (EST)
That being said, I'm sure I could paddle and trim my boat better. I'm by means expert in any area. :-)
Posted by: Mattt on May-09-14 9:29 AM (EST)
I'm thinking little kids in little kayaks are going to be working really hard if you are expecting them to be doing 20 mile flatwater days