I am toying with buying a back band for my canoes. I just want a little extra support once in a while. I have no problems adding hardware to my boats to accommodate switching it between boats. I saw this online but am wondering if a SOT will work the same in a canoe.
I really don't like the cane seat back rest set up, have had them in the past and gave them away. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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What sort of seat, Doug?|
Posted by: kayamedic on Mar-09-14 12:21 PM (EST)
CVCA makes these for tractor seats
Posted by: dougd on Mar-09-14 12:26 PM (EST)
All webbed seats, god how I hate cane seats! I need to move this from canoe to canoe hence my mention of installing hardware to accommodate its addition as I need it. Not going on my WW boat but for my tripping boats yes! No foot brace of any kind outside the kayaks where I don't need it.
If you are sitting|
Posted by: kayamedic on Mar-09-14 12:36 PM (EST)
in anything you paddle seated you need footrests.
Canoe foot pegs?|
Posted by: pirateoverforty on Mar-09-14 12:51 PM (EST)
Excuse me while I hijack the thread a second
You don't slide backwards with|
Posted by: kayamedic on Mar-09-14 12:55 PM (EST)
Well obviously crossed ankles isn't a|
Posted by: pirateoverforty on Mar-09-14 1:45 PM (EST)
Posted by: Guideboatguy on Mar-10-14 9:45 AM (EST)
I think you would have less need for a foot brace with a tractor seat than with a bench seat because the contour of the seat helps hold you in place, but for real paddling power, a foot brace helps a lot if sitting.
I have a new Royalex solo|
Posted by: pirateoverforty on Mar-10-14 10:45 AM (EST)
That I don't have much seat time in it and what I do have was all in a small lake screwing around with freestyling. I already know I want to adjust the seat for kneeling and thinking about covering the floor in front of the seat with foam. I did notice the first time I paddled it I was looking for the little ridges in the floor like I have in my aluminum and my fiberglass boat. I don't have tractor seats. Mostly I paddle non-white water. I will have to think about a footbar.
More thoughts, ideas|
Posted by: Guideboatguy on Mar-10-14 12:51 PM (EST)
I splay my knees in both my kayaks and |
Posted by: ezwater on Mar-11-14 4:24 PM (EST)
when paddling seated in canoes. The knees should be supported against the sides of the canoe.
I have used stadium seats|
Posted by: pirateoverforty on Mar-09-14 12:36 PM (EST)
As I had a lot of them laying around from watching the kids play football. The old style folding seats are great for a little while. I have a soft folding one I like because it has a flap with pockets that hangs behind your calves.
Surf to Summit|
Posted by: waterbearer on Mar-09-14 12:51 PM (EST)
Performance back band is what I use on my Penobscot. I like it a lot. Along with the foot bar I installed it makes paddling a breeze.
canoe foot brace|
Posted by: plaidpaddler on Mar-09-14 2:48 PM (EST)
Kim has it right. When you paddle the thrust you develop with the paddle is transferred to the boat thru your points of contact with the hull. Your butt is the main contact point. As you pull back on the paddle your butt and the canoe move forward towards the paddle plant in the water. The foot brace keeps you firmly in place on the seat and helps in the energy transfer. At a lilydipping pace there is a low energy transfer. At race pace there is a lot of thrust being transferred. A tractor seat and a footbrace is the best combination for energy transfer. Without the footbrace your body stiffens up to keep position on the seat and you get lower back pain.
Let's Try This Again|
Posted by: dougd on Mar-09-14 3:17 PM (EST)
I just want a back band to lean against to rest on, not while I'm paddling hard. I'm not putting foot rests in, I'm not planning on depending on it while paddling. Point taken? Just a rest thing. Just wondering if this SOT seat would do the job. Jeez, I'm not modifying every canoe, just an added piece of comfort gear!
You obviously don't understand physics|
Posted by: pirateoverforty on Mar-09-14 3:40 PM (EST)
Doug you can try a Crazy Creek|
Posted by: kayamedic on Mar-09-14 4:09 PM (EST)
Chair. The last time I was in Campmor there even was from Crazy Creek a canoe chair.
Debby Loves her Crazy Creek|
Posted by: TommyC1 on Mar-11-14 11:47 AM (EST)
CVCA back band|
Posted by: beachcamper on Mar-10-14 7:13 AM (EST)
I have tried everything and love the support that the CVCA band offers. It is very lightweight and the design is simple. They make a good product. My canoe has wood gunwales and a bench seat. Here is a little write up on how it is attached and what it looks like:
that's where getting to where you can|
Posted by: bigspencer on Mar-10-14 9:44 AM (EST)
saw yourself a good pedestal with a comfortable backing makes for a nice paddle doug. Of course this is just my experience...I'm 5'9". The thin, softer foam layered over the main foam is what makes it all comfy. Cut the rear of this thing really long so that it'll fit under a extremely lowered cane/web seat for a tight "secured" fit(I also cement on a sort of "hook" at the end that hooks around the seat for added hold)...you're right anything with the front crosspiece made of anything solid is not comfortable no matter what angle it's put at(personal...again).
This is what I have in my Voyager|
Posted by: Kayak_Ken on Mar-10-14 10:17 AM (EST)
Second the crazy creek|
Posted by: stevet on Mar-10-14 1:39 PM (EST)
suggestion. Some are sized for canoe seats. Cheap, adjustable support and easily moved from boat to boat... Seems to hit all your needs
Posted by: c2g on Mar-10-14 9:28 PM (EST)
It(Wenonah's)also looks like it's at a|
Posted by: bigspencer on Mar-12-14 11:00 AM (EST)
good height, posture-wise, c2g & Ken...fwiw Both look pretty good...that one for Wenonah will be nice in the warmth of July & August.
Placed My Order|
Posted by: dougd on Mar-12-14 5:03 PM (EST)
It was just what I was looking for. I don't need it for paddling but just something to lean back on every once in a while when on trips. It was great speaking with the owners, sound like great folks and they were happy to explain how it works for swapping it out from boat to boat. Now, if I could just get some freaking open water!