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Has anyone out there removed the seat from a QCC-700?
The boat is a 2008 in Kevlar and it looks to be a very tenacious bond between the hull and seat. I'm aware of the hacksaw with the tape around the handle method, but hoping for an easier solution that won't damage the hull.
I realize it will need to be cut where it is "hung/bonded" from the underside of the deck/coaming. I'm mostly concerned with separating the underside of the seat from the hull.
Jack?? You must have some thoughts.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Recreational Kayak Paddle
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Posted by: shiraz627 on Feb-28-14 11:54 AM (EST)
You can separate the cockpit coaming from the deck, I would say start cutting. What the problem with the seat?
It is glued in with tough adhesive|
Posted by: LeeG on Feb-28-14 9:33 PM (EST)
Not everyone likes it. The stock gel seat/backband doesn't stay in place with the factory installed velcro.
Posted by: tkamd on Feb-28-14 12:04 PM (EST)
I feel your pain Jim, bought a 700x in 2010, loved the boat, hated the seat. Before hacking it out, as a last ditch effort, I removed the pad, velcroed in a Seals seat pad, and inflatable lumbar support. Then installed an IR back band. I can paddle that boat all day now. What about calling Steve at QCC, as far as I know, he is still answering the phone, he would probably have a good idea as to removing it. Tim
Second this approach|
Posted by: carldelo on Mar-02-14 2:46 PM (EST)
I have a Q400, which is a different animal, of course, but has the same crappy seating system. In the end, I just spray-glued some sleeping pad foam (that gray and green waffle stuff) to the bare seat pan and it's been great. It's worth a test before taking a chisel and saw to your boat.
Posted by: LeeG on Mar-02-14 3:28 PM (EST)
The seat pan itself is good in my opinion but the permanence of the seat installation makes modifications difficult and the velcroed seat bottom/back is quirky. Velcro adhesive isn't strong enough. I had a QCC 400, nice paddling kayak.
Posted by: carldelo on Mar-02-14 3:49 PM (EST)
Posted by: LeeG on Mar-03-14 8:27 PM (EST)
It is a tad high for rescues but would be no problem if the back of the coaming was 2" further back. I had a Mariner Express with that tall of coaming but the cockpit was longer with room behind the backband that made for room to move. Another thing I'd change is the use of Fastek buckles for hatch closures. I'd rather use a length of 5mm line like old Neckys than Fastek buckles
Posted by: carldelo on Mar-04-14 11:43 PM (EST)
Sorry , I can't help|
Posted by: jackl on Feb-28-14 12:47 PM (EST)
but mine was lifting off the bottom, and I glued it back, I even pried it a little to make sure I was getting it all down.
ASSuming the seat is a pain there ...|
Posted by: onnopaddle on Feb-28-14 2:13 PM (EST)
Posted by: LeeG on Feb-28-14 9:46 PM (EST)
I think the adhesive is Plexus(?). Is it possible to use heat and pry without screwing up the hull?
If I may:|
Posted by: jackl on Mar-01-14 6:19 AM (EST)
As much as I hate the Smart Track System, and that stupid connection at the rudder, I have never seen that little wedge not hold the cable, and I have probably changed them out more times than most paddle shops.(pricked my finger with the cotter pin too and called it the same!)
Have had guys tell me they just|
Posted by: onnopaddle on Mar-01-14 5:01 PM (EST)
QCC Seat Removal|
Posted by: trilobite02 on Mar-01-14 8:05 PM (EST)
First of all, Patrick, good to see your post. :)
Posted by: LeeG on Mar-01-14 10:00 PM (EST)
So hack saw blade it is
Posted by: LeeG on Mar-01-14 9:57 PM (EST)
We got 5 demo QCC at the shop and two of them slipped at the wedge, enough to require disassembly at the rudder then reconnecting with press fittings. It would make more sense to just make a loop then secure with press fittings then use screw and nylock nut to connect with the rudder.
I agree completely|
Posted by: jackl on Mar-02-14 5:58 AM (EST)
Wenonah must have changed the supplier. That has not happened in the past.
Posted by: LeeG on Mar-01-14 9:51 PM (EST)
Anyone thinking of buying a QCC can get it without the seat installed
This is a simple problem|
Posted by: Dr_Disco on Mar-04-14 9:40 PM (EST)
Despite all the details above, all you have to do is remove the seat pad and back support, which is very easy. The seat pan is just fine. You can remove the velcro on the pan if you want but it is not necessary. If you want back support you can install after market supports using the holes already there on the sides. I did that but later removed it after I discovered that back support is not needed. YMMV.
seat pan fine|
Posted by: gjf12 on Mar-05-14 2:30 PM (EST)
I also find the seat pan with the velcro still attached just fine, very comfortable. I did replace the back band with one by IR. I find the foot position on the pedals fine, as well as the operation of the SmartTrack rudder as long as it is working normally. I don't think the Q700 handle well in wind without the rudder, and never paddle it without deploying the rudder.