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  as g2d said , the flat stern is HEAVY ..
  Posted by: pilotwingz on Feb-04-14 12:58 PM (EST)

-- Last Updated: Feb-04-14 1:05 PM EST --

..... even the Saranac is heavy (79 lbs.) for a 14'-6" canoe , especially one with such a low profile . It's a frigin joke , but that's what you get with single layer canoe construction , heavy and inferior construction . With single layer polyethylene models , Old Town is trying to compete with the other bottom end canoe makers in the market .

The Rouge River at 15'-4.5" weighing 118 lbs. is just plain HEAVY . But in general that's what's expected for wide flat back targeted at the fishing crowd , but still 118 lb. for 15'-4" is very HEAVY per inch I think .

Our Old Town Expedition 16'-9" weighs 83 lbs. , although the new 169 Discovery says 91 lbs. on the OT site . Why the new 169's weigh more now , I don't know ??

Both the Rouge River and the Saranac are single layer polyethylene .

Canoes like the 169 are 3 layer linear polyethylene .

My question to you is , how are you planning on moving your canoe around , picking it up , hauling it how , doing this by yourself ??

I can manage the 169 at 83 lbs. by myself , but it's still too heavy to move around solo on any regular basis , or even up a short hill , ramp etc. . Normally my wife helps move it around because we canoe together as Tandem . What you get with the 169's 83 lbs. is a much larger canoe and 3 layer linear construction .

I wouldn't be happy with considerably more weight for a considerably smaller canoe , and a single layer ploy boat at that . I don't think you will be either .

If the motor is going to be the regular thing for you , get the flat back , but get a trailer too . Your wife's shoulders aren't going to want to help you lug a 118+ lb. canoe around . She won't even want to pick up a 79 lb. Saranac , and if it causes her pain , don't even ask her to .

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