Can anyone give me a decent explanation of this layup? I don't know anything about composites and the description on Tahe's website isn't overly clear. I was under the assumption carbon made kayaks stiffer but more brittle? How would this hybrid compare strength wise to a conventional fiberglass layup?
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Posted by: ezwater on Jan-30-14 1:23 AM (EST)
read their description of the layup.
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Posted by: BigandSmall on Jan-30-14 10:13 AM (EST)
not so light as claimed|
Posted by: gnarlydog on Jan-30-14 10:48 PM (EST)
---TCI-lite – do not confuse this with vacuum bagging! Vacuum infusing is one of the most advanced construction methods used in the composite industry. This production method ensures the best strength/weight ratio possible.---
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Posted by: dong on Jan-30-14 8:19 PM (EST)
Tahe Greenland T with the TCI lite layup. It's a very light, 41 lbs. and very stiff layup. It's great for most of the paddling I do now but I'm not sure how it would compare to a heavier, thicker fiberglass hull with bouncing off rocks. The kayak I have has carbon fiber for the exterior and Kevlar on the interior. It's a very strong and stiff kayak for its weight that will suite my purpose. The only downside is that the carbon fiber/epoxy isn't coated with a varnish or gel coat for protection from UV rays or moisture and requires special attention and care. You don't want this kayak to be stored outside and in the sun and you don't want it to be wrapped in plastic, have the plastic get ripped, and have rain water laying between the plastic and the hull in the hot summer sun for a couple months. This is what happened to the kayak I bought because the transporter didn't have any idea that an epoxy composite is only water resistant and not water proof. When I recieved the kayak, the hull was covered in white chaulk and needed a lot of rubbing out work done to it to remove the water damage. If you are able to take the extra care this kayak requires to keep it looking nice then it's well worth it it have a light strong kayak. Sorry for going in to such depth with the problems I had but I just wanted to make you aware of the extra care that a epoxy composite kayak requires. My kayak stays in a garage out of the sun and is doing just fine. Im curious which kayak model your looking at. I have paddled and built many kayaks and am still amazed at the handling characteristics of the Greenland T. Any competent paddlers owes it to themselves to take this kayak for a paddle. You'll be amazed.
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Posted by: BigandSmall on Jan-30-14 11:15 PM (EST)
Thanks Dong. Looking at the new Reval HV. I'm hoping it fits between the Tempest 170 and 180, we'll see.
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Posted by: ezwater on Jan-31-14 2:54 PM (EST)
epoxy or vinylester acquire a haze or "chalk". I have two epoxy boats and three vinylester boats, none of them varnished or gelcoated, and they have not shown any visible effects of water, moisture, or UV exposure. I do store them in a shaded carport, but otherwise they are exposed to the elements.
Posted by: RubricOfRuin on Feb-04-14 7:02 AM (EST)
Greenland T now under Rebel|
Posted by: gnarlydog on Feb-04-14 8:33 PM (EST)
the original design by Johan Wirsen is now under his own label of Rebel Kayaks. While some of the Tahe Greenland and Greenland T were fragile and prone to failure behind the cockpit (because of manufacture shortcuts, not design) the Rebel ones are now made with cork core, super stiff and incredibly light. Production ones have just been released at Goteborg boat show over the week end.