Forgive if I can't describe this well in words. I saw an old picture of a solo canoe with as seat that seemed to be designed to allow one to kneel at a 45 degree angle to the side. It came to a "V" in the center at the front and had a small triangular seat angled on each side. I'd like to try making one. Does any body have a picture or more information on one?
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Invention: pivoting tractor seat|
Posted by: Glenn_MacGrady on Dec-17-13 1:02 PM (EST)
I've never seen your triangular seat, but can picture it.
For me, that paddling position ...|
Posted by: Guideboatguy on Dec-17-13 2:15 PM (EST)
Actually the transverse position|
Posted by: kayamedic on Dec-17-13 4:04 PM (EST)
works well because it forces you to use torso rotation.
Okay, that's different than I expected|
Posted by: Guideboatguy on Dec-17-13 4:38 PM (EST)
Watch some videos of Becky Mason|
Posted by: kayamedic on Dec-17-13 5:02 PM (EST)
Actually, I've watched both of them|
Posted by: Guideboatguy on Dec-17-13 5:29 PM (EST)
Posted by: Glenn_MacGrady on Dec-17-13 4:57 PM (EST)
I know Marc usually tends to paddle slightly transverse, sort of scooted up to the on-side gunwale. But I wouldn't conclude that that's the reason he won some sort of slalom event. He may have won it against the particular competition from a traditional seated position or from any position. Marc can do sophisticated things in a flatwater canoe that most people can't.
Posted by: pagayeur on Dec-17-13 9:10 PM (EST)
the angled station is common among many solo canoe paddlers. It's been used far a long time now and exists because facing 45 degrees to the paddling side provides a superior bio-mechanical advantage, in terms of both power and control. Several instructors have been teaching this approach for years. It takes a bit of getting used to but once mastered one can easily feel the advantages. Of course one should be able to change this angle to the other side for cross-bow maneuvers.
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Posted by: ezwater on Dec-18-13 12:13 AM (EST)
thought about a pedestal for my Bluewater that would pivot horizontally from a rear pivot point. If I were paddling on the left, the pedestal would put me closer to the left gunwale, with my body somewhat angled to the left. To paddle on the right, the pedestal would be swung to the right, and my body would be angled a bit to the right.
Posted by: rblturtle on Dec-18-13 7:05 AM (EST)
I saw it in an overhead shot in an old solo canoe article link by Mike Galt on the canoe tripping forum. Sorry I don't know how to post the link.
Posted by: alg on Dec-18-13 8:31 AM (EST)
Is this the article you wanted to post? The third overhead picture shows something that looks like an X brace to sit on left or right. Need to zoom in to really see it. To me it looks like a way to end up paddling with your arms instead of your torso but I've never tried it so who knows.
That's a very interesting picture|
Posted by: Glenn_MacGrady on Dec-18-13 10:01 AM (EST)
That seat, if it is a seat, is not what I was picturing.
Posted by: rblturtle on Dec-18-13 10:24 AM (EST)
I sit this way a little on a conventional seat to compensate for some arm and shoulder issues. On flarwater this seat may help. I'm definatly going to build a rough tryit seat.
Posted by: pagayeur on Dec-18-13 11:49 AM (EST)
I think you are correct. This stationing will ease pressure on shoulders, etc. One concept that might get lost in this discussion, is that it applies to those using kneeling thwarts or canted seats for paddlers who kneel. In doing this one must take care to adjust keep trim during forward travel. Having said that, my idea is to use a kneeling thwart which is curved along the front edge. This will allow the paddler to assume any angle desired in either direction. I've almost built one myself several times. Good luck with this. Hope it helps.