I was going to title it "Shaft Length - Does it Matter?" but opted against, for fear of juvenile responses.
Why do paddle companies insist upon selling paddles based on tip-to-tip rather than throat-to-throat dimensions?
Isn't the relationship between wingspan, seated height, boat width and waterline more important than where the blade tip winds up in the water?
This has been bothering me for a while and for whatever reason just this morning it reached the Post on Pnet (PoP) threshold.
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Posted by: ppine on Dec-10-13 12:07 PM (EST)
Paddle length matters but it has been a moving target. The two main variables are your torso length and the seat height above the water.
true, but a little math|
Posted by: sapien on Dec-10-13 12:13 PM (EST)
will get you the answer. by subtracting the blade dimensions from the overall length, you can figure out the shaft length and compare different models. example: the Werner Tybee or Shuna "high angle" paddles in 210cm have close to the same shaft length as their Skagit or Camano "low angle" paddles in 220cm.
Posted by: Peter-CA on Dec-10-13 12:42 PM (EST)
I agree - if they listed the length of the shaft instead of overall length it would be more useful if you were looking to change paddles to one of a different blade shape. But they don't.
Posted by: dressmeister on Dec-10-13 1:24 PM (EST)
Peter-- shaft length is no better than |
Posted by: ezwater on Dec-10-13 5:13 PM (EST)
total length if one does not take into account the shape of the blade. There is a never-discussed dimension related to blade shape and blade length, the center of pressure.
Posted by: slushpaddler on Dec-12-13 5:16 PM (EST)
That was a simple, logical and concise response.
If I were smarter, I could include a way|
Posted by: ezwater on Dec-13-13 10:53 AM (EST)
to guesstimate the center of pressure.
Posted by: suiram on Dec-10-13 1:35 PM (EST)
I agree that manufacturers should list throat to throat, and then specify bounding box for blades.
Check this out (link)|
Posted by: Kocho on Dec-10-13 2:22 PM (EST)
Greg Barton posted a really nice explanation on surfski.info in response to a similar question:
Posted by: LeeG on Dec-10-13 9:58 PM (EST)
When one cares
It Sure Does|
Posted by: clydehedlund on Dec-12-13 2:18 PM (EST)
When changing from a 198cm - 208cm small wing to a 198cm - 208cm small-mid wing, the shaft for the new bigger blade had to be adjusted 2cm - 3cm longer to achieve the same "feel" as the older smaller blade with same feather adjustment. Go figure? I really didn't think it would matter, but it does.
The perfect paddle|
Posted by: Jaybabina on Dec-12-13 9:05 AM (EST)
The nice thing with belonging to paddle clubs and doing muti-person paddles is trying out equipment.
Posted by: jimyaker on Dec-12-13 6:38 PM (EST)
Posted by: Dr_Disco on Dec-12-13 8:57 PM (EST)
Get a paddle that is adjustable (there are quality paddles that do that) and make sure that the range includes lengths that you might use. Not only can you fine tune the paddle length given how it works at that time but you can also change the length given circumstances.
Greenland Paddle Companies|
Posted by: Kudzu on Dec-14-13 10:04 AM (EST)
aren't totally focused on end-to-end length. They are very aware of the importance of throat-to-throat distance; only they call it shoulder-to-shoulder.
Posted by: gstamer on Dec-14-13 10:14 AM (EST)
This reflects a fundamental difference in how you hold a Greenland paddle. Unlike a spoon or wing, you don't place all of your fingers on the paddle shaft of a GP. Instead, only your thumb and forefinger of each hand encircles the paddle shaft, with your remaining fingers draped over the roots of the blades. This requires a more customized fit than a Euro since the paddle shoulders dictate your hand position.
Posted by: Fadedred on Dec-14-13 7:42 PM (EST)
worked out a design for a Greenland paddle that addresses this point exactly. The loom length can be changed without changing the overall paddle length or the paddle length can also be changed without altering the loom length. Works very nicely for dialing in a fit.
Posted by: pdawg67 on Dec-15-13 5:16 AM (EST)
This is the one paddle dimension that really does matter. We can argue feather angle all we want, and I've come to realize that any particular angle choice really only matters to me. Now, paddle length choice is critical.
Posted by: radiomix on Dec-14-13 10:56 PM (EST)
Adjustable length paddles.