Somewhere on this forum I saw "don't even consider a kayak under 14 feet." Do they track that much better?
Looking at Current Designs Vision 120 (32 lbs) and Vision 140 (43 lbs). Is the extra weight worth it to get the two extra feet of length for long trips?
Rivers and lakes, no rough water, but sometimes windy.
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14 foot can be found with dual bulkheads|
Posted by: abz on Nov-16-13 11:29 AM (EST)
a 14 foot kayak is usually offered with front and rear bulkheads. These are water tight compartments that aid flotation if you capsize, and limit the amount of water you will need to pump out afterwards.
The 120 is 23 " wide, and the 140|
Posted by: Jackl on Nov-16-13 12:52 PM (EST)
is 24" wide. I would think the 140 at two feet longer would track better then the 120.
What kind of "long trips"?|
Posted by: pblanc on Nov-16-13 1:45 PM (EST)
Do you mean overnight trips? If so, the choice may come down to storage capacity and what you plan to take.
What speed do you want to paddle?|
Posted by: redmond on Nov-16-13 3:18 PM (EST)
At lower speeds, 3, maybe 4 mph,the resistance numbers are almost identical for most kayaks, regardless of length. It's when you get going a little faster is where the differences get more obvious.
I have several reasons for 14'|
Posted by: trvlrerik on Nov-16-13 3:42 PM (EST)
Many people just entering kayaking often think of transport issues, once you go above 8' (pickup bed length) it does not matter how much longer you are going to go in most cases in regard to transport, you are going to need a rack or trailer.
It's not the tracking|
Posted by: Guideboatguy on Nov-16-13 4:16 PM (EST)
I know you're concerned about |
Posted by: g2d on Nov-16-13 8:52 PM (EST)
weight, but 43 pounds isn't much if you're only concerned about picking up, carrying, and loading.
14 feet is so much faster in general|
Posted by: FrankNC on Nov-16-13 11:06 PM (EST)
In most 14 foot boats I stand a chance of keeping up in group paddles. I might be the slowest one but I can catch up during breaks. If the water is rough I can keep up a little better.
How big are you ? River Conditions?|
Posted by: seadart on Nov-17-13 1:34 AM (EST)
Some other factors to weigh are how much you weigh and your physical size. If you are small framed you might be much happier in the narrower, lower volume boat, it's designed to carry about 200 lbs max supposedly. For camping if you weigh about 120 -140 this would be fine. If you weigh more than that and you want to carry a weekends worth of food and water then go with the larger boat. Also are the rivers gentle flowing or twisty with rocks and trees etc. If so go with the smaller boat. The difference in weight only matters much for carrying the boat to the water, and for acelleration, since you won't be sprint racing or surfing a really light boat is not much of an advantage.
Posted by: BigandSmall on Nov-17-13 12:03 PM (EST)
Such as yourself have a tough go finding a boat that fits well. If you are looking to go to 14 feet have a look at a lower volume design like the Impex Mystic someone suggested on your other thread. There are other longer boats built for smaller people such as the NDK Pilgrim, Tahe Reval Mini or the Valley Avocet LV. All of the those are longer/heavier than you are looking for and a fair bit pricier. The key part is they all have a lower volume hull design for the lighter weight paddler. The 140 you mention just seems like a big boat for only a 112lb paddler.
I may have made the referenced |
Posted by: string on Nov-17-13 8:30 PM (EST)
comment with a disclaimer: "IF you weigh over 200 lbs, get a 14' boat". Sure, you can paddle one and I did for quite a while,but the heavier you are,the more resistance you create and the harder you will have to paddle to achieve reasonable speed.
Yeah, though I'm down to 212#, |
Posted by: g2d on Nov-17-13 9:54 PM (EST)
when I paddle my 14' 6" Necky Looksha Sport, there's not much freeboard left once I pack a lunch.
my PERSONAL opinion...|
Posted by: rikjohnson on Nov-18-13 12:06 PM (EST)
I love a 22' for day trips and overnighters.
Posted by: angstrom on Nov-18-13 2:34 PM (EST)
Shorter boats in the same model line often tend to be wider and deeper to keep the rated weight capacity in the same range. That's a potential disadvantage. At your weight, you don't need much beam to be stable. Excess beam will just make you less efficient. Excess depth will just make the boat harder to control in a breeze.
Posted by: RiverRat48 on Nov-18-13 6:59 PM (EST)
It's an Impex Mystic 14!
Posted by: carldelo on Nov-18-13 10:54 PM (EST)