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  Where do I go to see surf skis
  Posted by: string on Nov-04-13 10:25 AM (EST)
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  just watch, or shop that has demos?
  Posted by: Peter-CA on Nov-04-13 11:58 AM (EST)
California definitely has a thriving surf ski scene.

Here are 2 race series:

Wavechaser Paddle Series
www.wavechaser.com

SoCalOceanRacing Series
www.eteamz.com/socaloceanracing/

And there are a few shops in CA that carry skis. California Canoe and Kayak in SF area and Ocean Paddlesports in Costa Mesa come to mind, but there are also others.

Was surprised to be up in Vancouver (BC) last summer and see a shop there that caries a lot of skis. If you find yourself in BC, check out Deep Cove Kayak Center.
 
 
  paddle fests, clinics etc.
  Posted by: nickjc on Nov-04-13 12:11 PM (EST)
Depends where you are.
check the forum at surfski.info
surfskiracing.com

Even though the PNW has lots of ski paddlers (relatively speaking) we only have two shops that carries skis, but mostly you have to contact the company rep directly.
Often you can find out who the rep is and then find out when they are doing a demo. Our local Fenn and Epic reps bring demo boats to many of our local races.
It's not regular retail. I bought my V10 directly from the importer for the west coast.
 
 
  Getting more popular
  Posted by: mcimes on Nov-04-13 12:29 PM (EST)
In MN, they are getting more popular. I see people out on the busy paddling lakes with them occasionally. I see them most often at races since they're so fast. Thats a good place to try them out. there seems to be a lot of them in MO cause of the MR340; I find that kinda funny.

Surfskiracing.com is a good website, no forum though.
 
 
  Yep, a dealer in Kansas City, MO.
  Posted by: Yanoer on Nov-04-13 1:50 PM (EST)
I bought a V6 from him last summer.

Several skis in the MR340.
 
 
  http://kayaklearningcenter.com/
  Posted by: kaptynkayak on Nov-04-13 12:56 PM (EST)
-- Last Updated: Nov-04-13 12:57 PM EST --

http://kayaklearningcenter.com/

 
 
  Seen a few in the PNW
  Posted by: pikabike on Nov-04-13 1:44 PM (EST)
Just yesterday I saw 2 at the closest beach, and I've seen them occasionally while paddling. They're not as common as regular sea kayaks but they are around. There are always some skis listed in the results from a local annual race.
 
 
  Used ones come up for sale
  Posted by: Andy_Szymczak on Nov-04-13 1:53 PM (EST)
often here. I get emails regularly from ski paddlers in my area that are selling there ski's as they upgrade. String, I can keep my eyes open for them if you let me know what you're looking for.

Andy
 
 
  check out elite ocean sports
  Posted by: houseboy on Nov-04-13 3:12 PM (EST)
here is a link:
www.eliteoceansports.com

And this was posted at surfski info website:

Anyone head up or down I-95 through South Carolina or going to the Charleston area is welcome to stop by our warehouse (15 minutes of i-95) or contact me to meet up for a demo
 
 
  That and Epic in Charleston, SC
  Posted by: Kocho on Nov-04-13 3:48 PM (EST)
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  It's not the seeing that's hard
  Posted by: pikabike on Nov-04-13 3:22 PM (EST)
It's renting something unusual in your area that's the tough part. Had that problem with sea kayaks in the Denver area, and now I am wishing I could rent a waveski without having to travel far.
 
 
  I'll Say it Again
  Posted by: Kudzu on Nov-04-13 3:37 PM (EST)
The east and west coasts of the U.S each need a paddling town; a town where all things paddling are available. Sales and rentals. I think Wilmington, NC should be the east coast town because it's centrally located and close to me.
 
 
  Check major paddling shops
  Posted by: Celia on Nov-04-13 3:59 PM (EST)
I know that the folks in Wickford RI had a couple of them at some point in the last few years. I bet you could get on the phone and find a serious outfitter shop within range, albeit maybe vacation range, that had one or two.
 
 
  Perhaps here ?
  Posted by: cliffjrs on Nov-04-13 4:09 PM (EST)
-- Last Updated: Nov-04-13 4:15 PM EST --

http://eliteoceansports.com/about/

Race and demo this coming weekend too.

http://eliteoceansports.com/2013/3rd-annual-north-shore-cup-powered-by-eliteoceansports/

 
 
  Rochester NY
  Posted by: jesse59 on Nov-04-13 7:20 PM (EST)
Bay Creek paddling center.
They sell Epics. I did a race they sponsor on Lake Ontario called the Rochester Open Water Challenge. They offered a chance to demo and rent them for the race.
 
 
  Erie Canal
  Posted by: TomD on Nov-06-13 11:11 AM (EST)
I've seen some Epic surf skis being paddled on the Erie Canal near Fairport (SE of Rochester). Not much surf to speak of, but only the rowing shells seem faster.
 
 
  Jersey paddler
  Posted by: Andy_Szymczak on Nov-05-13 8:39 AM (EST)
Carries surf ski's. All Epic.
 
 
  Even in Michigan
  Posted by: willi_h2o on Nov-05-13 8:53 AM (EST)
-- Last Updated: Nov-05-13 8:58 AM EST --

Surfski events happen in the northern states too

http://bit.ly/SurfSki

Past 2 years in Kensington Metropark we've had a group
of surfski folks come out and race on the lake.
http://picasaweb.google.com/108590711667865641354/2013KensingtonKayakRaces

Northern Michigan shop
http://www.tcsurfski.com/

 
 
  VENTURE SPORTS, BOCA RATON
  Posted by: Scupperfrank on Nov-05-13 5:05 PM (EST)
String-

There's a shop in Boca that's been around for quite a while that deals in many things fast kayaking. Grayhawk and I got our Knysna (South Africa) Isthmuses from Bruce Gibson, there.

http://venturesport.com/

Your brother -if he's still in South Florida -might be able to swing by and see Bruce's warehouse and give you a what's up about the operation.

Or, y'all could come down yourself, bring your own ride along, and then come a tad farther south so we could all get together again (it's been too long) and

PADDLE ON!

-Frank in Miami
 
 
  Now that winter is beghinning to make
  Posted by: string on Nov-05-13 11:34 PM (EST)
an appearance, Boca Raton sounds pretty good.
I appreciate all the suggestions.
 
 
  The closest to you would be Epic
  Posted by: Jackl on Nov-05-13 6:22 PM (EST)
down in Charleston.
Or you could check out the NC canoe Racing ASSn Schedule or the Florida Competition Paddling Assn schedule.
There are always some surf ski's that show up

jack L
 
 
  Charles River Canoe & Kayak Newton
  Posted by: clydehedlund on Nov-05-13 6:58 PM (EST)
MA, is where I go for surfskis when not in Hawaii. In fact, a surfski (Stellar SEL) I rented from them last Summer, came in 3rd in the women's division of the Blackburn Challenge. Overall, good service, selection and friendly staff.
 
 
  usa HQ for epic
  Posted by: rick_s on Nov-07-13 12:23 PM (EST)
is Charleston SC...your profile says SC....betting they'd point you in a direction locally.
 
 
  I have vsited Epic twice. Very nice
  Posted by: string on Nov-07-13 1:47 PM (EST)
people. The V-10 fit me perfectly, while the V-8 cockpit was a couple inches too short.Don't think I want a boat as technical as the V-10.
 
 
  v10 and 12
  Posted by: rick_s on Nov-07-13 4:27 PM (EST)
are just scary to me...so tender! talk about yer intestinal wobble!

on the other hand i love the v8...it isn't anywhere near as fast but it just feels so solid and stable on the water and compared to my sea kayak it's a rocket ship. for me and for pure fun i think it's a wonderful boat.
 
 
  Elite Ocean Sports
  Posted by: Tecpartner on Nov-24-13 10:16 AM (EST)
Elite Ocean Sports distributes Vadja and Think surf skis. There is one model of the Vadja ski, which is 21' x 17", for elite paddlers, (very pretty). There are 5 models of Think skis in a very nice progression from very stable to very, very fast, and tippy.

I've been paddling a V10S for years, and love that ski, but I'm considering a new Think EVO II.

The guys at Elite Ocean Sports are two of the nicest guys in the business. They both have day jobs, they distribute skis for a pure love of the sport. They run paddle camps, do numerous demo days a year, and sponsor several races. I went to one of their demos and paddled 4 different skis that bracketed my ability level.

I like the team at Epic, too. Very good guys. As manufacturers they have a slightly different perspective than a local distributor or dealer.

Just get a ski that you're comfortable paddling in the conditions where you want to paddle it.

String, if you're in the Upstate, you're pretty close to Elite Ocean Sports. They're up and down the east coast.
 
 
  Definitely worth a trip there to ...
  Posted by: Kocho on Nov-24-13 11:41 AM (EST)
-- Last Updated: Nov-24-13 11:42 AM EST --

... To check the Vajda and Think skis and the Epics in one place (as far as I know). The problem with the skis is that their seats and cockpits are all different - get one that fits you best and gives you enough stability, don't focus on brand so much.

For most people the likes of Fenn Blue Fin and Swordfish, Think Eze / Big Eze, Epic V6 and V8 are more than enough. The likes of V10 Sport and new V10 or Think Evo II and Ion are somewhat advanced craft for the average sea kayaker to master. Totally within reach for advanced sea kayakers, tippy for beginners/intermediates. The "elite" skis like V12 and V14 Epics are out of the comfort zone for most and should only be considered by serious racer types.

 
 
  And Kids 10 and Up Do Fine in Elite Skis
  Posted by: clydehedlund on Nov-25-13 5:50 AM (EST)
As long as their feet reach the pedals. It's their parents and grownups that need coddling. Initially, gals have better balance than boys and learn faster, but the boys catch up fast (I wonder why?).
 
 
  I'd love to demo the Epic V6
  Posted by: jmyers on Nov-25-13 7:50 AM (EST)
but my local dealer, Jersey Paddler, is no longer offering demo trials until spring. Has anyone paddled the V6?
 
 
  Only briefly paddled the V6
  Posted by: Kocho on Nov-25-13 10:50 PM (EST)
Paddled it only for a few minutes on flat water. It has a surprisingly lively feel on center. It has excellent secondary stability when you edge it - it builds fast and strong. It should paddle similar to the Epic 16x I presume, but I don't fit in the 16x so I don't know. The seat is a bit different than the V10 and Sport - a bit more square I thought, more like in a sea kayak. Well made. I think it would be a lot of fun on short wind generated waves or just exploring about. If you are smaller, you might also consider the Nelo Ski 55 (or whatever the name is) and the Think Eze. I think they all have somewhat unique personalities and one might work better than the other for a particular situation. I just got the Eze myself and have paddled it only twice so far - a very nice ski, which at 17 feet is both fast enough to enjoy for fitness paddling and short enough for surfing wind chop where my V10 just feels too long to enjoy. I submited my initial review, but seems to take some time to post on the review section for some reason (you can read it and more and see a short video of it in the Think section of the surfski.info forum)
 
 
  V-6
  Posted by: Trilobite02 on Nov-28-13 9:54 AM (EST)
Just sold my wife's V-6 to get 'her' a V-8. I agree with Kocho; the V-6 is a nice little boat. I'd think of it more as a fast sea kayak with an open bucket. It feels fairly efficient up to hullspeed, and then it's limited by its length. If you were truly going to surf, the Trackmaster rudder with spring-loaded skeg works well, but its position all the way to the stern does limit it somewhat-no different than any other sea kayak with rudder.

It's a slick little unit. The hatches work extremely well, and just having these alone makes it a great choice for day outings amongst the islands, or short camping trips. The only other boat I know of that offers these is the Stellar S18S, which is longer and a bit less beamy, hence greater speed.

This was the reason we sold the V-6. My wife was accustomed to the greater glide of her Endurance 18, so the trade up to the V-8 should provide more glide, minus the hatches of course. I didn't think I'd personally love the V-8 as much as I do.

I also have a Huki S1-R, and a Stellar SEL Ultra, so the V-8 being in the family quiver really provides a benchmark for all sorts of conditions. If it's a small craft advisory, the V-8 is beyond stable-you'd really have to stand on your head to fall out of it. The Huki is a fun, highly maneuverable play boat-lively beyond belief, and the SEL is fast, fast, fast-with greater stability than most of the elite boats.

It's a tough choice at the entry level; the playing field for these boats is far wider, with offerings by every manufacturer. An unknown quantity buying a boat sight unseen is comfort. You may find that what works for one person, causes 'dead leg' or chafing for you. I've bought quite a few skis without trying them, mostly hits, with a few clinkers that didn't work out at all. Once you narrow your wish list, then you can source out demos. Good luck in your quest!
 
 
  I see them
  Posted by: baldpaddler on Nov-29-13 8:44 AM (EST)
at races. Had one at Normadins' race a few years back.
I also think that EPIC is located in Charleston so you could contact them.
 
 
  Referral
  Posted by: trilobite02 on Dec-01-13 10:12 PM (EST)
While Maine is a distance from your location as per your profile, I can wholeheartedly recommend Chris Laughlin as an Epic and Think rep. Chris is highly respected in the Northeast/New England region, and will gladly work with you on delivery, be it direct from Epic itself, or through a transport company like KAS. He's a good guy.

You can contact Chris at North Coast Kayaks in Lincolnville, ME. I know he has the Think line in stock, and V-6s and V-8s in the Epics. He could give you a more detailed estimate on delivery times for other models.
 
 
  2nd Chris
  Posted by: Kocho on Dec-02-13 4:04 PM (EST)
Happy customer here, dealing with him remotely from MD. Very responsive to my questions, helped arrange shipping, was as advertised. I hear his shop is worth a visit if in the area...
 
 
  From what he said re winter
  Posted by: kayamedic on Dec-02-13 5:13 PM (EST)
paddling I think his shop is open year round. And right across from a beach.
 
 
  North Coast Kayaks and Chris
  Posted by: Trilobite02 on Dec-13-13 5:08 PM (EST)
Just took delivery of a new V10 Ultra. Chris literally bent over backwards to assure this customer was a happy one; and I am. Delivery was painless, the boat came in weeks before the anticipated ship date, and he checked in at every step of the way. Highly, highly recommended.
 
 
  Any Fenn Surfski Dealers Up North?
  Posted by: clydehedlund on Dec-13-13 6:59 PM (EST)
With the exception of one Florida dealer mentioned on this board, I haven't heard of any others, especially in the New England area?
 
 
  No Fenn Dealers in the NE
  Posted by: trilobite02 on Dec-13-13 8:07 PM (EST)
Hi Clyde,
Unfortunately, no, the main Fenn dealers are Patrick and Deanne at OceanPaddlesports in CA, and Bruce Gipson in FL. It's tough to get them out here, mainly due to shipping costs-the primary reason why Hukis aren't more prevalent on the east coast, despite being exceptional boats.
 
 
  Thanks for the info.
  Posted by: clydehedlund on Dec-15-13 12:54 AM (EST)
 

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