I'll looking at spending a few weeks this spring paddling the San Juan islands and up part way Vancouver Island.
Can anyone recommend the best 3 season 2 person tent to use for that area? I was thinking of the MSR Hubba Hubba because I'd like to use the same tent for when I hike a section of the John Muir trail this August.
Any recommendations welcome.
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Posted by: gobsmacked on Oct-26-13 11:46 PM (EST)
This kayaking forum is local to Vancouver Island and can provide the experience and answers you're looking for. It's worth your time to post your question there too.
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Posted by: jsmarch on Oct-30-13 12:03 PM (EST)
Pricy, but nothing better...
Your Hubba Hubba.....|
Posted by: chodups on Oct-27-13 12:22 AM (EST)
.....will do fine. Not sure about what is best but I use that tent and it works fine.
I spent three weeks in a Hubba Hubba|
Posted by: johnysmoke on Oct-27-13 7:12 PM (EST)
Posted by: emanoh on Oct-27-13 10:51 PM (EST)
I own one, good tent, packs light, easy up. My only knock is all mesh means it is not the warmest tent I own.
Posted by: chodups on Oct-27-13 11:06 PM (EST)
Nights aren't that cold|
Posted by: pikabike on Oct-29-13 12:06 AM (EST)
A mesh-bodied tent with solid fly should be adequate.
Thanks y'all for the help :)|
Posted by: elkhermes on Oct-27-13 11:12 PM (EST)
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Posted by: roanguy on Oct-28-13 9:26 AM (EST)
here on P-net.
Posted by: ppine on Oct-28-13 5:23 PM (EST)
Any quality tent with a fly that is in good repair will work for that country. The San Jauns are not as wet as lot of other areas nearby like the West Coast of Vancouver IS. Always bring a large tarp on boat trips in the islands. WA DNR campsites usually have a frame over the tables at their campsites. Maybe the Gulf Is site do too.
It's nice when...|
Posted by: ByronWalter on Oct-28-13 5:41 PM (EST)
... the rain fly and the inner tent go up together. If you get stuck in rain, which you likely will, the inner tent will likely get very wet if the fly goes up afterwards.
Bring a Tarp..|
Posted by: johnysmoke on Oct-28-13 6:34 PM (EST)
And set up the tent under the tarp. Actually with the Hubba Hubba you can set up the fly and then add the body in underneath, and do the same to take it down. Takes longer though...
Posted by: baldpaddler on Oct-28-13 8:53 PM (EST)
Cliff Jacobson recommends them and I personally have seen them hold up under the abuse of our scout troop.
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Posted by: WaterBird on Oct-28-13 10:55 PM (EST)
Tents and prices|
Posted by: dc9mm on Oct-28-13 11:43 PM (EST)
The price of tents has puzzled me quite a bit. I just started camping EVER, kayak camping and bought a Kelty tent about 100 bucks, worked fine on 2 trips, one trip had rain over night, no problem. But I see tents that go up to the in the $700 range. I just took a quick look at one of the suggestions above the Hillberg tents. Crazy expensive. I look at the specifications and it doesn't look any better than the Zepher from Amazon link above. I read the reviews and they don't seem to last much longer but even if they lasted 3 times as long there still not worth those crazy 500 and up dollar prices. I guess Iam missing something?
Posted by: kayamedic on Oct-29-13 7:54 AM (EST)
are designed for extreme conditions that would tear a Hubba Hubba apart. On the tundra or on the shoulder of an alpine mountain , they are the best.
Posted by: johnysmoke on Oct-29-13 11:25 AM (EST)
The solid wall mountaineering tents do handle wind and bad weather a lot better than the 3 season hiking tents. You can set them up so they are really taut, you don't have the sensation of your tent flapping around you all night, giving you the impression it might blow off at any minute. Also the solid walls keep the wind off you a lot better than the mesh tents, and if you're on a sandy location, you don't wake up in a sandbox. The huge vestibules also are a great place to get out of wet clothing so you don't track water into the tent, a great place to keep gear so it doesn't get wet, and a place to cook if needed. Would be interesting to see if someone could design an cold weather specific sea kayak expedition tent?
Posted by: jesse59 on Oct-29-13 2:14 PM (EST)
Just to clarify for folks who may not know the jargon; By "solid wall" i believe johnysmoke means "single wall". It is still a fabric, not a solid material. Single wall designs forego the double wall rainfly/tent concept for a single layer of fabric that is waterproof and breathable to various degrees.
Posted by: kayamedic on Oct-29-13 2:42 PM (EST)
solid wall tents have no mesh. Just nylon. They can be and double walled like my Trango 3.1
Posted by: jesse59 on Oct-29-13 3:53 PM (EST)
I'm on the same page with you now. I've just never heard anyone use the term solid wall...could be a regional thing.
Varies by model|
Posted by: pikabike on Oct-29-13 7:53 PM (EST)
I have the Unna, which uses two long poles for structure. Tents with 3 or more poles have greater stability in wind, as seen in the higher-priced models...all other things being equal, which they never are.
Materials, structure, marketing|
Posted by: WaterBird on Oct-29-13 10:59 PM (EST)
I don't know Hillebergs at all so I won't comment on them. Four-season mountaineering tents have superior materials (poles, fabric) and designs to withstand severe conditions that your Kelty Grand Mesa wouldn't hold up in.
Fan of Kelty|
Posted by: jimx200 on Oct-30-13 12:20 AM (EST)
Design flaw on the Trail Ridge 4|
Posted by: WaterBird on Nov-01-13 10:58 PM (EST)
They weren't thinking straight when they made solid doors on the 4P, versus the mesh doors on the 2P and the 3P. The solid doors cut down considerably on air flow and block the view. Really unnecessary for privacy---for that you can close the fly door.
Posted by: weed on Nov-08-13 4:16 PM (EST)
We just got back from Fl. with our Kelty. I've always pitched it under a tarp but my wife didn't want to listen to the tarp flap in the wind. When the rain came it leaked every where the poles touched the rain-fly. The water ran down the sides to the seam where the floor is sewn then it wicked inside. A trip to WalMart for a free standing shelter saved the night. What can I put on the tent to cure this?
Paint some of this on...|
Posted by: johnysmoke on Nov-08-13 7:50 PM (EST)
Takes a while, but works well. http://www.mcnett.com/gearaid/seam-grip#10510
V I weather|
Posted by: trout on Oct-30-13 6:08 PM (EST)
I was on V I in Oct ..rain...rain...rain ! so make sure the tent is waterproof.
Posted by: salty on Oct-31-13 1:04 PM (EST)
I've paddled these waters for years and camped many a night in all seasons in this country. I think there are many good tents out there and so long as the tent can withstand strong winds and has decent ventilation you'll be fine. Best to pitch tent on gravel or sand in heavy rain, as drainage is good. Ive actually moved out from the tree canopy in torrential rain due to puddling and lack of drainage. Sand gets messy but drainage critical. Ground cloth is good but dont let it exceed tent floor edges
salty nailed it...|
Posted by: jmden on Nov-02-13 10:29 AM (EST)
...he obviously has done this quite a bit. I follow the same procedures. Tarps are key to enjoying the area. One over your tent and another to cook, etc. under or one very large one to cover all. You need to make sure you have very robust staking and many guy out points, especially for large tarps. A tarp over the tent will keep you much dryer and happier during a trip.
Best advice yet.|
Posted by: elkhermes on Nov-07-13 9:22 AM (EST)
Thanks salty. That's some of the best advice I've had for camping up in the Northwest. Very valuable info.
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Posted by: salty on Nov-09-13 12:39 AM (EST)
Will do. Thanks.|
Posted by: elkhermes on Nov-10-13 11:05 AM (EST)