I'm interested in hearing from owners of plastic Zephyrs about how well the hatch lids perform. I know the Pro models have Kajaksport lids, which are my favourite, but the plastic boats have Confluence lids. My only experience with the latter lids is on a Dagger Alchemy and it has not been super positive.
So, do the plastic Zephyr lids leak? Implode? Thanks for any advice you can share.
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Posted by: Kocho on Oct-13-13 7:19 PM (EST)
If I recall, mine were dry, except the rear during self rescues where I suppose the flexibility pushes air out when I sit on top of it, then sucks some water back in. Dry in whitewater add after a 2 hour roll session though. YMMV though, as there are variances. I had Tsunami and two Tempests 170 over the years too and all but one Temoest (that was dry like the Zephyr) had at least one hatch that was leaking a bit. Nothing to worry about though, not much, unless you get a really defective one. The new style I don't think will blow if properly closed.
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Posted by: rpg51 on Oct-13-13 8:44 PM (EST)
I do apply a bit of 303 in the Spring which helps them go on and off easily and securely.
Good luck so far, dry|
Posted by: trvlrerik on Oct-13-13 10:11 PM (EST)
On delivery they were crazy hard to get on, after 303 application, and leaving them on over a hot summer season they are manageable now. The day hatch is a little tough to get back on while out on the water.
Posted by: t.george on Oct-14-13 9:26 AM (EST)
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Posted by: hodtay on Oct-14-13 9:48 AM (EST)
We own a plastic zephyr, an alchemy s and an alchemy l. All boats were purchased new and used extensively in dynamic water and roolling and rescue practice. The zephyr does not leak excessively but the alchemys both have leaky rear hatches. I also have several friends who paddle alchemys and l think most of them have leaky rear hatch problems.
Posted by: jesse59 on Oct-20-13 2:55 PM (EST)
That's awesome. I've never heard of stretching a hatch opening to fit the cover. Mad Genius!
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Posted by: Kocho on Oct-20-13 5:05 PM (EST)
Sometimes the skeg cable opening through the bulk heads is not glued well and let's water from the cockpit into the day hatch. Easy enough to fix. Had that on one of my Tempests. The Z had no issues whatsoever.
Posted by: t.george on Oct-21-13 9:52 AM (EST)
Really? Never seen that on any boat. Do you mean the skeg blade was curved, the skeg box was curved or did you mean it was some how mis aligned?
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Posted by: Kocho on Oct-21-13 11:18 AM (EST)
Curved front to back rather than flat.
Posted by: jesse59 on Oct-22-13 8:02 PM (EST)
I've noticed these curved (warped?) skeg blades on a number of different kayaks of various brands (including mine!). The ones I notice are always the flat plastic type. Aluminum and hydrofoil-shaped plastic skeg blades don't seem as prone to this issue.
Posted by: LeeG on Oct-24-13 9:19 PM (EST)
It would be nice to know why that happens. I saw a tempest where the skeg was curved and stuck to the box like the hull was soft/ hot.