Posted by: old_user on Sep-21-13 5:13 PM (EST) Category: Kayaks
I have the opportunity to buy a QCC 400X that is about 10 years old but in excellent condition. What would be a fair price for it? It is also located several states away from me. What is the best way to ship it? Thanks for you help! ~S
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Posted by: carldelo on Sep-21-13 6:09 PM (EST)
If it's truly in excellent shape, then I would say maybe 1/2 of retail. The different builds vary significantly in price (and weight of course).
I trid to sell a 600 once on P-net|
Posted by: JackL on Sep-21-13 6:36 PM (EST)
it was only three years old, and like new and I was asking $1600. I got a few nibbles that wanted to make offers.
On second thought...|
Posted by: carldelo on Sep-21-13 7:04 PM (EST)
...I tend to agree with Jack, a grand is about right. If it was kevlar/carbon or lighter and had a smart trak rudder (not the old style), then maybe 1500.
Make sure |
Posted by: shiraz627 on Sep-21-13 8:16 PM (EST)
To check the gelcoat for spider cracks.
Just a grand?|
Posted by: Yanoer on Sep-22-13 1:40 AM (EST)
Why is a composite QCC in good condition worth so much less than any other brand composite in good condition?
10 years old !!!|
Posted by: JackL on Sep-22-13 6:30 AM (EST)
Posted by: carldelo on Sep-22-13 10:46 AM (EST)
I was factoring in distance - it takes a lower price to entice me to drive a long distance to look at a boat I may or may not buy.
Same for me.|
Posted by: Yanoer on Sep-22-13 11:51 AM (EST)
But that doesn't determine the market value of a boat, only the portio of the total cost of acquisition that I'm willing to pay for it.
Yes, but you buy and sell boats.....|
Posted by: JackL on Sep-22-13 12:27 PM (EST)
for profit. I would hope that most people are like myself and put a price on it that will not only help pay for their new boat, but help another paddler get a decent boat at a fair price.
You may have me confused with another|
Posted by: Yanoer on Sep-22-13 9:05 PM (EST)
poster. I've never sold a boat for an unfair price.
Different strokes ...|
Posted by: nebeginner on Sep-23-13 8:13 PM (EST)
The QCC does not look like a typical sea kayak, so I'd suspect that there are some, perhaps a fair number of folks, who pass them over when looking for boat. That may depress the resale value.
Best way to ship|
Posted by: tsunamichuck1 on Sep-21-13 11:29 PM (EST)
is to go and get it
In Spring of 2012|
Posted by: MikeT on Sep-23-13 6:33 AM (EST)
Posted by: dafishman on Sep-23-13 9:28 AM (EST)
I have been looking for a QCC 400x or Swift Caspian Sea (same boat) since April of this year. By searching national Craigslist ads, I found seven 400x's for sale with an average price of $1,379. Note that these are the listing prices and the selling price may have been less. The prices ranged from $900 to $2,400. One kayak has been listed since May for $1,950.
I have to chime in hear in regards|
Posted by: JackL on Sep-23-13 1:10 PM (EST)
to the Smart Track Rudder.
Posted by: LeeG on Sep-23-13 7:37 PM (EST)
I like the rudder but the footbraces have a hell of a legacy.
Posted by: gjf12 on Sep-23-13 11:11 PM (EST)
I have had a Q700 with SmartTrack about 4 years and paddle about twice a week, 2 to 3 hours each time, always in salt water. I had to replace the spring that pulls the rudder down a couple of years ago, but other than that everything worked fine.
Not to steal the original post, but|
Posted by: JackL on Sep-24-13 9:07 AM (EST)
and it has nothing to do with the Smart track rudders, but you can expect to replace almost all the stainless hardware within a few years.
Posted by: carldelo on Sep-23-13 1:26 PM (EST)
I too looked for a used Q400 for over a year, including constantly checking the QCC site for a demo model. It seemed there just weren't that many used ones for sale, and I experienced the same random pricing combined with long travel times. I came close several times, but never found one. I never did see one listed at QCC (this tells me people like them a lot, and rarely return them).
Do not ship it|
Posted by: LeeG on Sep-23-13 9:49 AM (EST)
It would take $100's for the seller to pack it safely and you will have no way of knowing if it's damaged in transit until you accept it and unwrap it, at which point the shipper is absolved because you accepted it.
Posted by: old_user on Sep-25-13 10:42 PM (EST)
Thank you for all the responses! I kayak with a friend who has a fiberglass QCC 400X with rudder system and really like her boat. The person who has the other QCC 400X, that I am interested in buying, is her friend, so very reliable re: condition and I absolutely trust her. I live in WA and the kayak is in the Midwest. She hasn't used her kayak is years and has been just storing it, as the lakes where she live are too rocky for fiberglass. I currently only kayak fresh water lakes and rivers, so don't have to worry about the salt water effects on the rudder system.