What is the general consensus concerning ausing a double bladed paddle with a canoe?
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Posted by: CEWilson on Sep-20-13 9:08 AM (EST)
The double increases speed through higher ,potential, cadence and eliminates the need to learn corrective strokes. It is heavier when made of the same stuff, widens total footprint in narrow streams and tends to be wet, the high blade dripping in to the boat. With every stroke including the recovery for the next, there is no rest cycle and the paddler is holding the paddle's weight in the air.
Posted by: plaidpaddler on Sep-20-13 9:13 AM (EST)
Well said Charlie and glad you spelled Nancy with a "y" so Jack L isn;t going to jump on you. His Nanci is the poster lady for good paddle form and maintaining racing speed well into the senior years.
Man I just turned on the net|
Posted by: JackL on Sep-20-13 2:51 PM (EST)
and was going to jump all over Charlie.
Posted by: mcimes on Sep-20-13 9:23 AM (EST)
"It is also possible to not look like a Nancy using a single stick, whereas with a double there is no doubt."
I prefer higher seat in canoe with kayak|
Posted by: Yanoer on Sep-20-13 2:19 PM (EST)
paddle - it's easier to reach the water over the gunwales and a more vertical stroke is possible.
Posted by: pblanc on Sep-20-13 9:42 AM (EST)
I'm not sure there is a general consensus? Some folks are passionate about using a double bladed paddle in a canoe and others hate it.
I use a 225cm, 21oz double in my solos|
Posted by: Yanoer on Sep-20-13 2:24 PM (EST)
with normal kneeling height seats and prefer that to the same canoe with a lower seat - I get more power and easier gunwale clearance.
I like to use both|
Posted by: Canuka on Sep-20-13 9:58 AM (EST)
I use single and double paddles in my solo canoes and my kayak. When canoeing, I use a single most of the time, but why fight a strong wind with a single blade? I'm out there to have fun. Slogging against the wind with a single blade is work.
Posted by: pgeorg on Sep-20-13 10:47 AM (EST)
what Pblanc and Canuka said regarding the double blade in a stiff headwind. Additionally I did once use the thing going upstream when the current was strong and the river was shallow. I could not get the single blade deep enough in the water to make headway in the current. The double, of course, went in at a shallow angle and put enough blade in the water to get the job done.
From my HS majorette career, I learned|
Posted by: ezwater on Sep-20-13 11:08 AM (EST)
to twirl a baton, so now I just twirl a short, low feather angle, double blade like a prop, and I'm off like an airboat in reverse!
With a big long double blade |
Posted by: clarion on Sep-20-13 11:11 AM (EST)
... everyone will know it's you coming from a long way away
Posted by: Booztalkin on Sep-20-13 11:52 AM (EST)
You will see more canoes powered with single blades, so there's your consensus.
There isn't a concensus.|
Posted by: Yanoer on Sep-20-13 2:15 PM (EST)
I use either single blade or double blade depending on my mood, energy level and situation/conditions.
Using a double blade in a race|
Posted by: JackL on Sep-20-13 2:58 PM (EST)
Is against the rules. - that should tell you something.
Posted by: plaidpaddler on Sep-20-13 4:05 PM (EST)
Actually Jack, in the 90 Miler in C-1 rec you are required to use a double bladed paddler whether you paddle a solo canoe or solo kayak.
Hey! Look at the dweeb!|
Posted by: TommyC1 on Sep-20-13 4:21 PM (EST)
usin' the kayak paddle in his canoe!
Posted by: booztalkin on Sep-20-13 4:36 PM (EST)
I forgot my favorite reason for using a single blade, best captured in a quote I only partially remember:
Posted by: Guideboatguy on Sep-20-13 5:11 PM (EST)
Okay, I started to give my take on this topic earlier today and then backed out. But at that time I was going to write something about the "magic" that Chip mentions. To me, the magic of single-blade paddling is that feeling that the boat can be made to do just about any useful maneuver (far more than just the "turning" that double bladers usually limit themselves to) at a moment's notice, and that's part of the paddler-boat connection that some people are talking about when they say "canoes have soul". There's that feeling of CONSTANT connection with the boat and water that comes from the need for infinitely variable correction actions. By comparison, double blading a canoe makes it look like one of those old-time windup mechanical toys. Windup toys do not have soul.
Don't use a double blade in a canoe!|
Posted by: FrankNC on Sep-20-13 5:17 PM (EST)
If you don't want to take the time to learn how to make the boat sing with grace while using a single blade, then just mount some oars!
Take yourself back |
Posted by: pgeorg on Sep-20-13 5:26 PM (EST)
to the 1890s and the Charles River in Boston. You'll see tandem canoes with a decked-out damsel in the bow, complete with a parasol to keep the sun off her. She is not paddling.
Posted by: Guideboatguy on Sep-20-13 5:32 PM (EST)
Actually, I just saw some photos of that sort of thing, couples in their Sunday best, with only the guy in the stern paddling. They all had single-blade paddles.
Hey that was me a few years later |
Posted by: JackL on Sep-20-13 6:58 PM (EST)
At Norumbega Park right by the Totem Pole.
The single canoe paddle excels|
Posted by: mickjetblue on Sep-20-13 7:05 PM (EST)
I'll profess my ignorance,|
Posted by: tdaniel on Sep-20-13 7:41 PM (EST)
until I visited this website I had only knew of one person who used a kayak paddle in a canoe. That bein' said I ain't a boat snob. So I say "try it out and see what you like." Who cares what other folks think. I know I like kayakin with two blades and I like c1in' and canoein' with one. As far as bein' a Nancy, we used to say in jest "twice the paddle, half the man." Total macho bs but I had to compensate for being slower and cause I could barely walk after kneelin'.
I'll pick a double everytime in the|
Posted by: kayamedic on Sep-20-13 8:27 PM (EST)
tidal flats of the Everglades. Heck there isn't a single blade around that won't pillory in the mud when there is six inches of water under the boat.
You must have been there at mid tide|
Posted by: JackL on Sep-21-13 6:37 AM (EST)
Heck, at low tide, you need to get out of the boat, put on a pair of snow shoes (so you don't sink up to you hips) and pull the boat!
It's a matter of preference, period.|
Posted by: Canuka on Sep-20-13 8:42 PM (EST)
Canoes have been paddled with double paddles to a lesser or greater degree since at least the 19th century (the Rob Roy, the Wee Lassie, early racing canoes, etc.).
the Magic of the Canoe|
Posted by: TommyC1 on Sep-21-13 9:10 AM (EST)