Recommendation for inflatable.
Posted by: old_user on Sep-18-13 1:09 AM (EST) Category: Kayaks
I'm looking for inflatable recommendations.
Here's what I have now..
I have two kayaks.
1. a Hobie Mirage Drive Revolution with Full sail equipment.
2. a Dagger Cypress with Full whitewater equipment
I use both regularly on rivers, lakes, and saltwater.
The thing is, that loading both these kayaks every time I go on a trip is getting cumbersome, and neither one fits comfortably on my cabin boat.
I'm really looking for one kayak that can do it all, and also be easily portable.
Obviously the Hobie Mirage i9s would be easily portable, have the sailing capability, track well in still water, and be short enough for whitewater, but I'm not sure if I can equip it properly for whitewater. In pictures I've seen, it doesn't appear to have any way to secure thigh straps. The mirage drive hole would probably serve well as a drain for spray, but how high is the center of gravity for good balance on whitewater? Is there anyplace to secure thigh straps. I'd love if somebody who has one can chime in.
I'm impressed by the semi rigid designs of Advanced Elements AdvanceFrame, and YakkAir's Boats. I realize that the Mirage drive would be lost, and I'd have to jury rig a sail mount, leeboard, and rudder, but there are kits available for that. Still, I like rigidity even on Class V whitewater, but I'm concerned about the lack of a combing ring to wear a skirt, and if they can be drained like a sit on top.
Other boats on Paddling.nets inflatable buyer's guide look flimsy or very limited or uncomfortable to me, but perhaps I'm being premature in my judgement. I'd appreciate feedback.
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Posted by: tsunamichuck1 on Sep-18-13 6:05 AM (EST)
You would lose the sailing and its a slow boat to paddle but its very portable
I looked at the Safari|
Posted by: old_user on Sep-18-13 10:16 AM (EST)
I wasn't impressed with the design. Seems very cumbersome. It doesn't look like it would glide well at all. Also looks like it would have the center fold problems common in rubber rafts. I don't want a rubber raft that is shaped like kayak. I'm looking for a kayak that is collapsible, but wooden folding kayaks are too breakable for whitewater, which is why I'm looking for inflatables.
Had my Safari|
Posted by: tsunamichuck1 on Sep-18-13 9:47 PM (EST)
in ocean surf and class 2-3 whitewater without any issues. Kleppers have been running whitewater for years
The one boat that does it all is...|
Posted by: Peter-CA on Sep-18-13 10:50 AM (EST)
The one boat that does it all does not exist. there won't be a boat that meets all of your desires, so you will have to figure out which requirements aren't actually required.
Posted by: willowleaf on Sep-18-13 1:13 PM (EST)
Just because the Mirage Sport is short doesn't make it capable for whitewater. At all. It's a fishing platform with none of the hull design for fast turns and planing. Forget that plan.
I don't need an optimal boat|
Posted by: old_user on Sep-18-13 6:47 PM (EST)
I don't need a perfect whitewater boat. I'm not an olympic competitor interested in perfect times. I have done class IV in open cockpit 13.5 foot recreational kayaks. It just gets really cumbersome having to pull over and bail out the boat after every drop.
"Ready to die". Your comment with |
Posted by: ezwater on Sep-22-13 3:20 PM (EST)
your profile. You're talking class 4 and 5 in unsuitable craft, and I'm not sure you've been running that stuff with suitably experienced and equipped companions.
Thanks for the advice on folding kayaks.|
Posted by: old_user on Sep-18-13 7:30 PM (EST)
I'm seriously considering the Folbot Citibot. That looks like a well made frame that could take the kind of abuse I tend to give, and have the stiffness I like.
Maybe another way to narrow it down|
Posted by: Guideboatguy on Sep-18-13 7:41 PM (EST)
Posted by: natehanson on Sep-25-13 11:03 AM (EST)
TRAK is on display|
Posted by: jmyers on Sep-26-13 5:27 PM (EST)
at the Jersy Paddler. Some folks have been playing with the hydraulic devices that control hull shape. Two of the three devices are now broken. I'd be careful if considering this boat.