So Iíve got a Wenonah Prism Kevlar Ultra light that over time has lost much of its clear skin coat on the bottom of the hull. The sides are still pretty shiny, but the fabric weave is starting to become exposed on the bottom. After reading a couple of posts here in the forum, it sounds like West Systems 105 epoxy with 207 hardener is the way to go in solving this. What I couldnít find mentioned was, just how much is it going to take to do the entire bottom of a 16.5 foot canoe? Obviously it gets a very thin coat, but I have no idea how that translates into quarts or gallons.
Anyone have any experience with that who could give me an estimate?
Also, if anyone has a different recommendation on recoating this, Iíd sure be interested.
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Marine varnish |
Posted by: beachcamper on Aug-17-13 8:27 AM (EST)
I have heard some outfitters use a quality marine varnish to recoat the Kevlar boats in their fleet.
I just did a 14' Wildfire|
Posted by: pblanc on Aug-17-13 8:41 AM (EST)
I didn't realize |
Posted by: n7zuq on Aug-18-13 8:39 PM (EST)
...varnish would protect from UL. Is that more effective than using 303 protectant?
Posted by: pblanc on Aug-19-13 12:30 PM (EST)
Good quality marine varnishes such as those made by Petit (Z-Spar) or Epiphanes confer UV protection. So does 303 but it doesn't last that long.
You are correct.|
Posted by: JackL on Aug-17-13 10:31 AM (EST)
I have recoated several of our ultralights with the 105-A resin and the 207-SA special hardener.
how to apply?|
Posted by: n7zuq on Aug-18-13 8:48 PM (EST)
What do you suggest for application? Brush, roller?
Posted by: Hanz on Aug-18-13 9:39 PM (EST)
West System has their own Foam Rollers. IIRC they have around a 1/8" nap. It won't take much and the rollers do an excellent job of evenly spreading the epoxy.
Yes, foam rollers work well, but epoxy |
Posted by: ezwater on Aug-21-13 7:54 PM (EST)
is not self-leveling like varnish. I coated two ww boats using West rollers, and the result was an orange peel texture on the surface.
System Three Clear Coat|
Posted by: pblanc on Aug-21-13 8:37 PM (EST)
I have not used West 195 resin with the 207 hardener but the System Three Clear coat (which I applied with a disposable foam brush) went on very much like varnish. Just about the same viscosity and also prone to runs and sags if care was not taken.
It might have to do with the ambient |
Posted by: ezwater on Aug-21-13 10:11 PM (EST)
temperature the day I applied the resin. It was 90 degrees in the shade of my carport. I used 105 and 206. I applied the next coat as soon as the previous coat was just firm enough not to grab the roller. (This was so the amine blush would not have risen enough to interfere with adhesion of the next coat.) I put on about 4 coats. The result was an orange peel surface. I think West cautions people to expect that result. Now, with 207, would I have gotten a different result? I don't know.
Either a foam roller or foam brush.|
Posted by: pblanc on Aug-19-13 10:12 AM (EST)
Both work well.
What Jack said|
Posted by: Seadddict on Aug-21-13 1:46 PM (EST)
Ditto on West System 105 & 207 with foam roller. Then I do a final coat of Helmsman Spar Urethane for UV.
I don't bother with the urethane|
Posted by: JackL on Aug-21-13 4:25 PM (EST)
My boats are either in the water or in our boat barn, so the only time the hull is exposed to UV rays is going to and from the water.
That worked great|
Posted by: n7zuq on Sep-08-13 2:06 AM (EST)
This is the first time I've used the West System epoxy and this stuff is fantastic. I used the 105/207 combo. Now I'm just looking around the house for more stuff to use it on it's so much fun to use.