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are there any composite layups without foam core suitable for bony rivers?
I heard foam cores are difficult to repair if they break. In a recent thread, the Plaidpaddler mentioned Wenonah's now defunct center rib lay-up without foam core as a lay-up that was intended for rougher waters. It sounds like a good idea. What was its sucessor and what lay-ups do other manufacturers offer that are both suitable for shallow rivers as well as lacking a foam core?
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Posted by: wildernesswebb on Aug-06-13 12:52 AM (EST)
I've had a couple Wenonah tuffweave canoes that held up well on bony Ozark streams. None had the center rib. Haven't had one recently, but had good luck with them in the past.
Posted by: melenas on Aug-06-13 9:28 AM (EST)
I assume your boats had the foam core construction? These days, Wenonah offers composites in either ultra light or foam core, both not ideal for rivers.
Tuff Weave uses no foam core|
Posted by: Guideboatguy on Aug-06-13 10:15 AM (EST)
Tuff-Weave boats don't rely on a foam core for strength. I'm no expert, but so far, I've only seen foam-core construction on boats that can be considered "ultra-light".
My reading of the Wenonah catalog|
Posted by: ezwater on Aug-06-13 10:52 AM (EST)
is that all Tufweave canoes now are foam core. As for their Kevlar canoes, the ultralite canoes are foam core with a very rigid core and side ribs. The "Flexcore" canoes have a bottom that, uh, flexes a bit.
Posted by: TomD on Aug-06-13 11:07 AM (EST)
Our 16'6" Wenonah Sundowner (~1990) is TufWeave with a full foam core along the floor with ribs up the side. At the time, I think you could select fabric (TuffWeave, Kevlar) and pair that with a particular construction (all fabric, center-rib, cross-ribs, or full foam core -- in order of decreasing weight and suitability for boney water). Don't know if Wenonah still offers all these options, or only offers a subset for each fabric type now.
Bell White Gold had a core - it wasn't |
Posted by: Yanoer on Aug-06-13 3:23 PM (EST)
ultra light. I don't know if it was a foam core.
Tuf-weave Flex Core|
Posted by: pblanc on Aug-06-13 4:27 PM (EST)
The Wenonah Tuf-Weave Flex Core boats (which appear to be the only Tuf-Weave boats Wenonah is currently making) utilize a foam core: http://www.wenonah.com/craftsmanship/composites.php
The successor to flex rib|
Posted by: LeeG on Aug-06-13 7:51 AM (EST)
Was a foam core. Old Mad Rivers were pretty much solid composite .
Posted by: CEWilson on Aug-06-13 8:00 AM (EST)
Colden, Hemlock, MillBrook and Placid still use all cloth construction.
Yeah, if you count a thick layer of |
Posted by: ezwater on Aug-06-13 10:55 AM (EST)
Spheretex in some Millbrooks as other than foam core. Haven't broken mine yet, but I don't look forward to it. I'd rather fix the flexible foam core on our Bluewater.
I would rather fix foam core than raised|
Posted by: ezwater on Aug-06-13 11:02 AM (EST)
ribs. There have been whitewater layups with flat ribs, essentially just an extra layer or two of fabric running around the hull from gunwale to gunwale.