I am looking for another boat. I am very rough on them so a poly or thermoplastic is preferable. I currently have (in order of preference) WS Zephyr 155, Dagger Alchemy S (modified), Dagger Alchemy L, WS Tsunami 165, and a Necky Manatou 14, I also have a Pyranha Fusion S for limited rough water use. I am 5'11" 200 lbs and most of the water I see is less than 2' swells or choppy lakes.
I am planning on replacing the Tsunami (the station wagon) for another boat capable of hauling 325lbs of camping gear, but I also want it to be lighter and have a better glide characteristic. I thought I had a contender in the Boreal Baffin P2 but it looks like a scaled up Zephyr, and I am looking for some thing different from my other boats. If the QCC 600 was plastic and rudderless I would buy it in a second. I am limited to under 17' 6" for transport reasons (I pull a fifth wheel trailer)
The idea of chewing up a lay-up boat or wooden kit boat makes me sick, am I going to go crazy looking for this mythical boat, or learn to deal with composite boat issues?
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Posted by: Kudzu on Jun-20-13 4:31 PM (EST)
Posted by: suiram on Jun-20-13 4:44 PM (EST)
I hear they are tanks/barges
Posted by: willowleaf on Jun-20-13 5:05 PM (EST)
The UK made Easky 17 from P & H/Venture is plastic, Brit style, good cargo space and less than half the price of the QCC600X. Maybe even cheaper yet if dealers are selling off the Easky 17s because Venture is replacing them with the similar Cappella 165 (another rugged poly high volume but nimble kayak you might want to look at -- same mold as the composite Capellas.) At 17'6", 23" beam, 58# (lighter than the Tsunami)the Easky is comparable in size to the Tsu, but being more Brit style it is lower cargo volume: 39 gallons in 3 hatches. (the Cappella is only 35 gallons). Good looking boats, too.
Posted by: Kudzu on Jun-20-13 5:20 PM (EST)
I did not realize |
Posted by: trvlrerik on Jun-20-13 9:43 PM (EST)
that Venture comes out of the same guys that produce Pyrannha, love the outfitting, hate the skeg cord control, I have a hard time adjusting it. With a boat that long the skeg is probably not needed very much. The smooth chines make me like the Ventures on paper.
Posted by: carldelo on Jun-20-13 11:23 PM (EST)
I looked at the Delta |
Posted by: trvlrerik on Jun-21-13 10:29 AM (EST)
I liked the weight, but felt loose in the cockpit, like I needed pillows surrounding me to get a good fit. I also have become very anti-rudder.
Posted by: poleplant on Jun-21-13 11:51 AM (EST)
How about the valley aquanaut lv. some used ones might be available. 17 3 ish. good boat but i dont know about camping volume.
Posted by: Marshall on Jun-21-13 11:51 AM (EST)
Scorpio = More Glide
Which Delta did you try?|
Posted by: WaterBird on Jun-21-13 2:49 PM (EST)
The Delta 16 is quite different from the others. Different fit.
Posted by: trvlrerik on Jun-21-13 3:30 PM (EST)
16 and 17|
Posted by: carldelo on Jun-21-13 5:05 PM (EST)
The performance touring 16 and 17 are narrower and lower decked than the 15.5.
Posted by: Peter-CA on Jun-21-13 12:22 PM (EST)
I am a plastic boat guy, myself, but what you are asking about really sounds like a composite boat to me. Some sort of 17' or longer boat, like a Valley Nordkapp or Avocet.
Try this one|
Posted by: magooch on Jun-21-13 2:41 PM (EST)
Eddyline Raven. www.eddyline.com
How about a |
Posted by: redmond on Jun-21-13 4:29 PM (EST)
Current Designs Sirocco? Back when I was paddling SINK's it was my favorite boat. http://www.cdkayak.com/products/template/product_detail.php?IID=149&SID=fd54091fc0a9435ff626a19ff2073b95