Hello, for the last few weeks I have been researching and trying to find the kayak that will be right for me as my first boat. I'd been considering the perception conduit 13 at dicks, however I have found the opportunity to pick up a 17ft eclipse at the same price. I will mainly be exploring the local lakes and rivers, however I'm only an hours drive from Lake Erie and once I get my paddling skills up I may like to explore there. I'm 5'6" and 140lbs and I'm looking to primarily do exploring and fishing. Would this be a good fit for me?
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Posted by: Celia on Jun-12-13 9:39 AM (EST)
some disagree :)|
Posted by: RubricOfRuin on Jun-12-13 9:52 AM (EST)
Posted by: willowleaf on Jun-12-13 10:10 AM (EST)
...note that the unique hull design of the Xcite (a flat section under the cockpit so it surfs well) makes it a good fishing platform. If the OP tried to fight a sizable fish in that Eclipse, he would get a quick lesson in combat rolling.
Eclipse 17 / Sea Lion is flattish mid|
Posted by: Yanoer on Jun-12-13 1:12 PM (EST)
OK - so it is just me|
Posted by: Celia on Jun-12-13 11:29 AM (EST)
I am not a compact fisherman, or wasn't the last I was doing it.
comments on the Eclipse|
Posted by: willowleaf on Jun-12-13 10:01 AM (EST)
Eclipse 17 doesn't have a deep V hull.|
Posted by: Yanoer on Jun-12-13 10:14 AM (EST)
"has a deep vee hull".
Generally - no|
Posted by: suiram on Jun-12-13 10:19 AM (EST)
Generalizing a lot, at your height and weight Eclipse 17ft will be a barge. It is going to be a real handful to deal with, and that is before you get it on the water.
It will likely feel a bit large on you.|
Posted by: Yanoer on Jun-12-13 10:21 AM (EST)
I'm 5'6" and 160 lbs and have owned both a fiberglass Aquaterra Sea Lion and recently sold a kevlar Perception Eclipse 17 / Sea Lion and found both of them to fit just a tad large for my preference, but you may prefer the fit, since you're coming from a rec kayak back ground.
thanks for the correction, Yanoer|
Posted by: willowleaf on Jun-12-13 11:35 AM (EST)
I stand corrected on the Eclipse hull profile. I was just going by various user reviews. Sounds like the Sea Lion/Eclipse models are more similar to the Aquaterra Chinook than to the Scimitar I had? Got a beat up Chinook in the armada now and it's a stable barge.
Posted by: RavenWing on Jun-12-13 2:50 PM (EST)
LMAO - great just great.
Has slight V, but ain't a Nighthawk 16.|
Posted by: Yanoer on Jun-12-13 2:58 PM (EST)
Posted by: apmorgan93 on Jun-12-13 11:53 AM (EST)
Ok, thanks for the info guys. I may end up just getting the conduit 13, I've asked around about it an asked ppl who have it and they all have had good things to say about it. Been searching Craigslist within a
I frequently ...|
Posted by: ByronWalter on Jun-13-13 12:24 PM (EST)
...hit West Branch. I launch from the site on Rock Spring Road and you are welcome to give my boat a try. I'm almost identical to you in size and just happen to fit my 17 foot boat nicely... in fact it fits better than my previous 15 1/2 foot boat.
Posted by: angstrom on Jun-12-13 11:59 AM (EST)
Posted by: Waterbird on Jun-12-13 11:59 AM (EST)
I found the weight of the Eclipse 17 listed variously between 60 and 68 lbs. That's close to half your body weight.
Eclipse 17 / Sea Lion stability is very |
Posted by: Yanoer on Jun-12-13 1:10 PM (EST)
good for relatively calm paddling conditions. I never had mine in rough conditions.
Just quoting the reviews|
Posted by: Waterbird on Jun-12-13 7:41 PM (EST)
here at pnet.
Posted by: willowleaf on Jun-12-13 12:30 PM (EST)
There's a guy selling a Current Designs Kestrel for $550 near Cleveland:
Posted by: edzep on Jun-12-13 2:01 PM (EST)
If memory serves, the Conduit has 2 bulkheads and hatches, and the Kestrel does not. For the OP: dual bulkheads and hatches add flotation / safety as well convenience / storage.
Posted by: RavenWing on Jun-12-13 2:46 PM (EST)
Composite 140 has two bulkheads and hatches.
Posted by: Waterbird on Jun-12-13 7:42 PM (EST)
is probably too large for this individual. It's for a rather large person.
Heritage featherlight 14?|
Posted by: apmorgan93 on Jun-14-13 4:52 PM (EST)
How's bout this one? The reviews seem good and I can pick one up at a pretty good price. How does it stack up compared to the conduit 13. The only thing I'm not wild about is that it only has one hatch but I can overlook that I suppose.
Lake Erie - Wind -Waves - Fetch|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Jun-12-13 3:55 PM (EST)
Keep in mind where you launch and the wind.
Allow me to split the hair |
Posted by: carldelo on Jun-13-13 1:01 PM (EST)
Just to be 100% accurate, fetch is a measure of distance, not time. Of course that can be translated to time = fetch / wind velocity.
Here's a pic of Erie...|
Posted by: ByronWalter on Jun-14-13 6:00 PM (EST)
...from last October taken from one of my paddling locations. I opted not to kayak that day:
A "great" lake indeed|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Jun-14-13 9:37 PM (EST)
Lake Erie is 241 miles long and 57 miles wide
It is too big for you!|
Posted by: jackl on Jun-12-13 4:29 PM (EST)