Wind gusts; cockpit gear bag
Posted by: Waterbird on May-17-13 1:46 PM (EST) Category: unassigned
Have you ever been blown over by a sudden gust of wind? It happened to me yesterday. I was paddling into a stiff wind coming consistently from one direction. Suddenly a big gust of wind hit me broadside from another direction. In a half a second I found myself in the water saying, What the heck was that? A new experience.
This incident made me rethink my habit of putting gear in a rubberized fishing tackle bag in the cockpit. The bag plus miscellanous items bungeed to the deck had to be retrieved from the water, with damage to my camera, binoculars, cell phone, wallet . . .
What's your preferred waterproof storage container for the cockpit? (I know some people are against putting anything in the cockpit.)
Talking about lake kayaking here. I have a deck bag but I don't like food to be exposed to the summer sun and a deck bag is a bit small for extra clothing.
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stuff in the cockpit|
Posted by: nickjc on May-17-13 1:59 PM (EST)
anything that can get loose, will and shifting gear can keep you from wet exiting or keep you from promptly re-entering your boat. A underdeck bag is my prefered system if anything, like what Northwater sells. I either keep stuff in my PFD or in the dayhatch. The only thing under deck is a pump.
If it won't fit behind the backband...|
Posted by: Celia on May-17-13 2:22 PM (EST)
Wherein I can secure some things pretty easily because it isn't a terribly big space... it isn't in the cockpit. But if you haven't tried using that space, it is surprising how much you can fit there in the way of small but crucial things in a smaller drybag. And anything stashed there tends to stay put in other than a surf capsize.
Posted by: carldelo on May-17-13 3:35 PM (EST)
I use a small dry bag (I think it's 5L) behind the seat. The closing buckles snap around the back band on one side of the cushion, a cheapo biner hooks the other end to the band on the other side of the cushion so it can't get away. Wallet, phone and car key are in a smaller dry bag inside it. That, a pump and a paddle float are the only things in the cockpit.
Posted by: slushpaddler on May-17-13 5:06 PM (EST)
Occasionally when I know it's going to be nasty I pack some of that stuff into a bailout bag (small fanny pack) and have it belted on.
Storage sponsons! Zippered for access! |
Posted by: ezwater on May-17-13 5:22 PM (EST)
I have a touring kayak, but for me, sea and touring kayak storage is kind of like all the SUVs I see on the road, stuffed to the gills inside, and then with a huge luggage carrier on the roof, ruining emergency handling.
happened one year at GGSKS|
Posted by: Peter-CA on May-17-13 7:37 PM (EST)
They had this happen a few years back on the Friday of the GGSKS. Multiple people all blown over at once in the Yellow Bluff tide rip. Wasn't my group, so I didn't see, but was supposed to be rather exciting for the instructors.
Kayak lap bag|
Posted by: Peter-CA on May-17-13 8:41 PM (EST)
SKILS, a training organization in Canada, came out with a video talking about some benefits to rescues to having a kayak lap bag. Interesting food for thought:
GREAT video! Thanks!|
Posted by: Waterbird on May-18-13 12:26 AM (EST)
I learned a lot from that video. That's an amazing bag---the guy made the reentry at the end look so easy using the bag.
Posted by: johnysmoke on May-17-13 9:40 PM (EST)
I paddled for years with a Watershed bag as a lap bag, and still do when touring. Great piece of gear. Put my phone (in a case) car keys, vhf, first aid kit, flares, all handy in my lap. Also always keep my head lamp, aqua mira, a lighter, snacks, an extra layer, an emergency bivy sack, sun screen, sun glasses/case and a cleaning cloth. Only time it is every really not ideal is during surf landings, but the bag can be strapped into the deck bungies before heading in, or thrown up on the beach quickly. Also makes a great pillow. The Watershed bags are a little pricey but amazing pieces of gear, mine has stood up to three years of guiding quite well.
Do you tether the lap bag?|
Posted by: Waterbird on May-18-13 12:32 AM (EST)
Do you put your valuables in an additional dry case?
Try it in rough water|
Posted by: magooch on May-18-13 9:33 AM (EST)
The rescue techniques|
Posted by: rjd9999 on May-21-13 9:48 AM (EST)
in the video seem to be identical to paddle float rescues I've seen before. It should work just as well, as long as the bag stays waterproof.
Posted by: rjd9999 on May-18-13 10:03 AM (EST)
I tend to not tether things on the inside of the boat. Loose lines can become quite a problem even in sea kayaks. Since you don't want stuff floating off, everything stored in the cockpit should be held in place to keep this from happening. Bungee cords, really short ties, etc. can secure anything on the interior of the boat that might float away during a capsize.
Posted by: NateHanson on May-18-13 3:44 PM (EST)
To those using a lap bag, why not keep this stuff in a day hatch? It seems like a lot of work to me to get into a lap bag. Even when he's sitting on land, it takes him two hands, and a couple minutes to close all the buckles on it. On the water, you'd need to have your skirt off.
lap bags not for rough water|
Posted by: nickjc on May-18-13 6:27 PM (EST)
Ask any rough water kayak instructor and they would tell you a loose bag in your cockpit is a really bad idea. Even worse stick all your important stuff in it. Fine for trips to local pond but not anywhere you might come out of your boat.
Can't use a day hatch as a pillow...|
Posted by: johnysmoke on May-22-13 7:56 PM (EST)
Day hatches aren't just for you |
Posted by: Celia on May-22-13 9:53 PM (EST)
you're relying on your lap bag|
Posted by: slushpaddler on May-23-13 9:34 AM (EST)