Kayak and canoe on roof together?
Posted by: old_user on May-16-13 11:14 AM (EST) Category: unassigned
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Ok, I have a bit of a delema. I have my kayak, and my fiance, instead of a tandem, wants a canoe so her and the kids can paddle with me occasionally. My question is, has anyone ever car topped a canoe and a kayak together? Generally when I see a canoe on the roof, it is laid upside down and takes up the whole roof. Is it possible to haul a canoe on its side in a J-Rack or similar rack? I have an 07 Jeep Liberty, with factory cross bars that are no wider than the roof rack.
Plan B is to rebuild the old trailer I have and use that, which would work great for weekend and week long trips. But if I can avoid using a trailer for day trips, that would save some hassel.
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Posted by: mcimes on May-16-13 11:19 AM (EST)
A few of the guys I paddle with have extended cross bars on their roof racks. They are wide enough to get 2 canoes next to each other. They extend over the sides of the car, so you'll want to pad them (the guys put tennis balls on the ends).
What is the canoe's layup?|
Posted by: Celia on May-16-13 11:30 AM (EST)
It'd take third party bars, like from Yakima or Thule, with the towers. But it sounds like you have a long term plan that would render that not needed?
Second the longer bars.|
Posted by: deuce on May-16-13 11:54 AM (EST)
I put 78 inchers from Yakima on my rig and I can tote two tandems, tandem and yak, yaks, whatever need arises. I did have to buy Railgrabs to hold the bars, but it was worth it to me. Exponentially better than the factory setup I had. Word to the wise though. If you carry a canoe and a kayak simultaneously keep a sharp eye on 'em. The last thing you want is for them to get jungle fever and produce a canak!
We have not|
Posted by: old_user on May-16-13 11:57 AM (EST)
selected a canoe yet. The significant other still has to decide what she wants. I guess my biggest question is if it is a good idea or even OK to put a canoe in a J-rack, or other system that hauls a boat on its side.
If you're talking about something |
Posted by: deuce on May-16-13 2:35 PM (EST)
like this http://www.yakima.com/shop/water/roof/hullraiser/ I don't think a canoe would fit. Are your bars not long enough to accomodate the canoe gunwales down and a Hullraiser?
A canoe won't go in a J cradle.|
Posted by: jackl on May-16-13 4:23 PM (EST)
I have the long yakama bars, and carry two yaks on J cradles and one canoe.
Probably not |
Posted by: Celia on May-16-13 9:00 PM (EST)
There are ways you can abuse a Coleman metal canoe that you cannot abuse a kevlar canoe. That is granted an extremely broad range, and unless you are really masochistic you don't want to be lifting the Coleman.
canoe = 1/2 a roof|
Posted by: bigspencer on May-16-13 11:39 AM (EST)
I do it|
Posted by: shiraz627 on May-16-13 1:01 PM (EST)
all the time. I have saddles for my kayak and gunwale brackets for the canoe but my crossbars are 58".
Posted by: Andy_Szymczak on May-16-13 1:09 PM (EST)
Red Neck Rack|
Posted by: leob1 on May-16-13 2:33 PM (EST)
When I had to do that, before I got my trailer, I'd use a Red Neck Rack system. I had some 1x3 duglas fir that I stood on edge and used home made J bolts to attach them to the factory cross bars. It would fit a kayak and canoe side by side noe problem. Of course it's up to you to make sure every thing is tied down securely. Regular 2x4 would work also. They are way cheaper than overpriced store bought bars.
just make sure you cover one of them|
Posted by: slushpaddler on May-16-13 2:48 PM (EST)
You don't want them to breed.
Canoe + kayak + outrigger canoe|
Posted by: Glenn_MacGrady on May-16-13 7:54 PM (EST)
A Woodstock sticker!|
Posted by: kayamedic on May-16-13 8:03 PM (EST)
Never would have thunk...
But if they breed....|
Posted by: old_user on May-16-13 10:20 PM (EST)
I could sell the puppies! Oh, umm, wait, uhh.... darn... haha!
Posted by: ret603 on May-18-13 2:43 PM (EST)
A trailer is a mixed blessing. While it is much easier to load and unload and it can carry more craft (exact count depends on specific trailer) they also have liabilities.
it's probably ok|
Posted by: slushpaddler on May-20-13 2:54 PM (EST)
I believe if they breed the offspring are infertile.
Canoe on its side on factory rack|
Posted by: eckilson on May-20-13 6:17 AM (EST)
Here's my WW boat on its side on the factory rack for a Rav 4.
We haul both|
Posted by: willowleaf on May-20-13 9:54 AM (EST)
Posted by: old_user on May-20-13 4:21 PM (EST)
Yes, canoes can get cooties from a kayak.
Posted by: CEWilson on May-20-13 2:23 PM (EST)
The canoe may be embarrassed to ride beside such a low tech item as a kayak, but there are no physical issues.
Posted by: slushpaddler on May-20-13 2:55 PM (EST)
OTOH it might be good for the kayak's ego.