Kayak paddle with solo canoe?
Posted by: Fallguy on May-12-13 8:55 PM (EST) Category: unassigned
Does anyone here use a Kayak paddle with their solo canoe on flat water? Which style paddle do you use Greenland or modern?
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Define your solo canoe|
Posted by: waterspyder on May-13-13 7:17 AM (EST)
You need to be a little more specific in reference to a solo canoe. For example a Placid Boat Works Rapidfire or Spitfire along with Hornbeck Canoes and some others are designed to be paddled with double bladed paddles. While a more traditional canoe with higher seating or set up for kneeling is designed to be paddled with a single blade. I have used a double bladed paddle in my Wenona canoe but switch to a single blade on narrow twisting water. The primary reason for using the double blade is my lack of skill with a single blade.
Posted by: yatipope on May-13-13 7:35 AM (EST)
I frequently use double blade paddles when solo canoeing. I think it is absolutely fine to do so especially if the canoe has a narrow beam or significant tumblehome like most Wenonah and other quality solo boats. I do this when on flat water and am trying to make distance more efficiently OR when I am paddling UP rivers which I do frequently. Going downriver or in rapids I go with the single blade because of its larger blade and better correction strokes for manuevering.
Shame on me....|
Posted by: Andy_Szymczak on May-13-13 8:24 AM (EST)
I use my longer ONNO wing paddle in my Sawyer Summersong. I always take a single blade or two along, but rarely use them.
Posted by: Bernie/cny on May-13-13 10:14 AM (EST)
demoed a few with a std kayak paddle.Worked fine in Wenonah's and Bell's solo's.On flat water it might be the best way to go.
Posted by: ret603 on May-13-13 11:00 AM (EST)
There is no "kayak" paddle or "canoe" paddle. There are paddles with single blades and paddles with double blades. Both types have been used for hundreds of years in both craft.
Mostly agree, but try using a typical ww|
Posted by: ezwater on May-13-13 12:18 PM (EST)
kayak paddle about 192 cm long in any existing solo canoe. I can paddle ww kayak with a canoe paddle, but not one of my 61" slalom single blades
Posted by: harry0244 on May-15-13 10:23 PM (EST)
A couple twists of adhesive foam weatherstripping just above the blade of your one piece paddle does wonders. Take it off every day and re apply to avoid it becoming hard to remove
Posted by: davbart on May-13-13 10:58 AM (EST)
in my Classic XL when the wind and waves get nasty. I use a "modern" paddle.
My Wife And Several Friends....|
Posted by: wildernesswebb on May-13-13 12:05 PM (EST)
....have for years. I've never seen a Greenland paddle outside of a paddle shop, so that's not what THEY use. My wife really likes her Mid Swift that I bought her several years ago. I've tried it out and it is a very well made paddle. Had a problem with the ferrule after a few years and they offered free repair if we would ship it to Seattle. I ended up repairing it myself, but they seem like a very good company. Here's a few illustrations that many folks use a kayak paddle in a solo canoe whether it is a pack-style canoe or not. Look at the last picture and you'll see 4 different solo canoes, all being paddled with a kayak paddle.
On the other hand|
Posted by: yknpdlr on May-13-13 11:03 PM (EST)
I MUCH prefer using a single blade whenever the canoe design allows. Hornbecks are pretty much double blade only, due to limited low seat set up options and wide beam. But i have a high seat installed on my Placidboat Rapidfire so I can use either a properly sized wood ottertail or narrower willow leaf blade; or a carbon bent shaft when I am using the RF to train for racing in other multi-seat boats.
kayak paddle with solo canoe|
Posted by: oldetowner on May-14-13 8:56 AM (EST)
double blade paddle drip|
Posted by: ret603 on May-14-13 9:03 AM (EST)
When racing, the harder and quicker stroke would increase the amount of drip inside the canoe. Likewise, pausing every 10 minutes to squeeze out a sponge (as I do) would be cause you to lose momentum and be a determent to speed.
Posted by: ppine on May-14-13 11:13 AM (EST)
I am a tradional paddler, but starting using a kayak paddle when soloing in my 18 foot OT Guide many years ago. It works for all types of paddling, and I have talked several other people into trying the technique.
Someone has to say this|
Posted by: Glenn_MacGrady on May-14-13 1:00 PM (EST)
Of course you can propel a canoe with a double blade, but to do so is akin to participating in anarchy, blasphemy and Satanism. And those are the good points.
a "Kayak" is a "canoe"|
Posted by: ret603 on May-14-13 2:56 PM (EST)
I've been a regular on a UK canoe |
Posted by: ezwater on May-14-13 11:59 PM (EST)
website for a few years, and it appears that actual UK paddlers are no longer calling kayaks "canoes". What we call canoes was qualified as "canadian canoes" but that is passing out of use too.
"Canoe" and "kayak", noun vs. verb|
Posted by: Glenn_MacGrady on May-15-13 10:16 PM (EST)
As I've said before, the words "canoe" and "kayak" can only be clearly differentiated as verbs, not as nouns.
Learn both single and double|
Posted by: kayamedic on May-14-13 1:09 PM (EST)
Posted by: Boyscout on May-16-13 1:43 AM (EST)
Did both for years.now mostly canoe paddles.if I need to keep up with a bunch of kayaker on flat water.then the double blade comes into play. Can keep up if not out pace the kayaks. Know a lot of people with canoes that use a double blade. If it works for you go for it. I prefer a single blade. its a fun challenge to improve with.
If you can kneel, a single blade is|
Posted by: pamskee on May-17-13 12:24 AM (EST)
usually better. If you can't kneel and aren't into poling all the time, then a double blade is lovely. Drop your seat, add foot pegs, add a backband, rig something to give you good thigh contact. I use a longer paddle, higher angle, bigger blade for rivers, smaller feathered blade for flat water. I have a Mohawk Odyssey that's wider than some solos, but it works for me.