What would you use to reglue a seat that has come loose on one side back to the kayak hull?
The seat material lookas loke plastic, and the kayak hull is carbon/kevlar.
The manufacturer uses a material that is not over the counter and not available
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3M 5200 or 4200|
Posted by: Marshall on May-06-13 12:12 PM (EST)
That ought to hold it.
Posted by: jackl on May-06-13 4:32 PM (EST)
A couple of questions on it:
Posted by: wilsoj2 on May-06-13 4:41 PM (EST)
You might be able to get it at Lowes (I believe I've seen it at a local Lowes) or a well stocked hardware store. I think I bought mine at West Marine. (It was to re-glue the seat in my ProLite Aquanaut (carbon kevlar/diolene and weighing 60+ lbs).
Home Depot carries it|
Posted by: Kocho on May-06-13 4:51 PM (EST)
5200..the Devils adhesive|
Posted by: LeeG on May-06-13 7:37 PM (EST)
4200 the Lesser Devil
Posted by: jackl on May-06-13 7:24 PM (EST)
You've answered just what I need to know
4200 + comes in caulking tube Jack|
Posted by: onnopaddle on May-07-13 2:53 AM (EST)
Let it all dry out of can and even if you have to buy a sanding disc ... Just get one so you can slide it under in and out a few times to sand for prep and kick out and grit ... You could always do this with hacksaw blade too but do what you can to get the grit out first as it will just poke and prod hull right there forever with you sitting on it ... Or at least pull the seat up a little more and jam the hose in there ... Keep it pried up to dry out then sand
Store leftovers in freezer|
Posted by: Kocho on May-07-13 1:41 PM (EST)
Just like with aquaseal and some other glues, the remaining 3M in the tube is supposed to harden fairly soon after you have opened the container. I've had good results for over a year or more storing such small half-used tubes in the freezer. I just put them in warm water and massage them to warm-up next time I need to use them. Then stick back in the freezer. I guess a gun-tube is not something you can massage like a toothpaste tube, so it will take longer to warmup for the next use. Seems to be working fine this way...
Thanks for that storage heads up Kocho|
Posted by: jackl on May-13-13 8:42 AM (EST)
I wouldn't have known that and I only used a small amount out of the tube.
A comment and a few more questions|
Posted by: jackl on May-12-13 7:20 PM (EST)
I could only get a tube of 5200.
The reason for only a couple bricks|
Posted by: onnopaddle on May-12-13 11:33 PM (EST)
was just to hold it in place NOT put 'clamping' type pressure on it and build in creeping stress ..*IF* that wedge is holding it in place with some pressure Jack, I would leave it for a week or pull it out and just sent something on it with lighter pressure so it final cures with a lighter 'load' on bond line ... Hope this makes sense ... Never tired to paint it .. Don't know ... Smear some on plate, let cure and then try it ?
Posted by: jackl on May-13-13 5:39 AM (EST)
Temp is a factor|
Posted by: Kocho on May-13-13 2:10 PM (EST)
The 5200 cures very slowly, can take a week or more at lower than ideal temps and even longer in cold conditions. Especially if you bought the regular vs. the "fast curing" version...
Sorry Jack ,,, gotta wait on it.|
Posted by: onnopaddle on May-14-13 3:05 PM (EST)
5200 REALLY sloooow.
I'm kicking my butt I ever used it.|
Posted by: jackl on May-14-13 6:24 PM (EST)
I should have bit the bullet and driven the six hour round trip to a West Marine and bought some Gel-Flex epoxy.
Sorry man. I only use and recommend 4200|
Posted by: onnopaddle on May-14-13 9:02 PM (EST)
But please come on down :)
It's all Matshall's fault ;)|
Posted by: Kocho on May-14-13 10:00 PM (EST)
Gflex would've worked fast but it hardens rather stiff, which create stress points, which you don't want in general. Good things don't come fast :)