Kayaking with a laptop
Posted by: Waterbird on Apr-25-13 11:26 AM (EST) Category: unassigned
Hypothetical situation: You go on a two-week working vacation for which you need your laptop. In the middle of your vacation you take four days for kayak camping. Which is the safest place for your laptop?
1) In the trunk of your car at the launch.
2) In your kayak, even though you don't need your laptop while you're camping.
Is there something waterproof I can put the laptop in? I hate the idea of leaving it in my car.
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If the hotel you were staying at|
Posted by: Reefmonkey on Apr-25-13 11:33 AM (EST)
before your kayaking trip is the one you will be staying at after your kayaking trip, or you can practically swing by it after your kayaking trip, I would ask the hotel staff if they can store it for you for those 4 days, and give it to them in a padlocked secure case. That would be the safest option.
Excellent suggestion. |
Posted by: ezwater on Apr-25-13 5:00 PM (EST)
both have their risks|
Posted by: kayamedic on Apr-25-13 11:34 AM (EST)
condensation on the river can wreck a computer..even if it is double dry bagged.
Posted by: slushpaddler on Apr-25-13 11:34 AM (EST)
to each his/her own. but I cannot imagine taking a backcountry trip and having to devote some of that time to work.
Posted by: kayamedic on Apr-25-13 11:43 AM (EST)
the OP is taking a camping trip in the middle of a work trip..
Well he did call it a "working vacation"|
Posted by: Reefmonkey on Apr-25-13 11:51 AM (EST)
I'm not sure exactly what that is. It sounds like a vacation where you still have to do some work. I have had business trips where I got to do some play, in Japan, Germany and France, and in Spain, but that is different. Company paid for my flights over and all hotel expenses except for those during days I might have extended my trip to sightsee, and the days I was working were not counted against my vacation days. A "working vacation" sounds more like you are taking vacation days and traveling on your own dime, but still have to get some work done during at least some of those vacation days, which sounds like a bummer.
Posted by: jcbikeski on Apr-25-13 11:59 AM (EST)
I hear similar from many on things related to work and technology. People put down the idea of bringing any way to communicate or do work. I agree it's best not to, but people need to understand the many varied situations others are in. Imagine you have a good paying job you enjoy and that puts a roof over your head and food for your kids, but the nature of the job means you're needed quickly for the next six months. The ability to work or check in may be the difference between not going anywhere at all. Life is full of compromises and you need to do what it takes to get out and enjoy life while still being a responsible person. I've mostly avoided being in this situation but I fully understand those that are.
that's why I said "to each his/her own"|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Apr-25-13 12:24 PM (EST)
On the other hand . . . |
Posted by: Waterbird on Apr-25-13 4:28 PM (EST)
This isn't a case of "I'm so glued to my work that I can't even take a vacation without my laptop." It's the opposite: I enjoy the outdoors so much that I take frequent trips and bring my work with me. I probably spend more time in the outdoors than people who take nonworking vacations. Plus these trips pay for themselves. What's not to like?
try reading my post again|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Apr-25-13 4:30 PM (EST)
Not judging, just said its a bummer|
Posted by: Reefmonkey on Apr-25-13 4:48 PM (EST)
if he has to do that.
you need to apologize about 3 more times|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Apr-25-13 4:57 PM (EST)
It's obvious a nerve was struck. I'll never say anything negative about taking electronics for work on vacation ever again.
mea culpa, my poor reading|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Apr-25-13 12:27 PM (EST)
Posted by: Waterbird on Apr-25-13 4:10 PM (EST)
No hotel involved. Only two options are the car and the kayak.
So other than the 4 days of kayak|
Posted by: Reefmonkey on Apr-25-13 6:03 PM (EST)
camping, where are you sleeping?
but better than not going at all|
Posted by: jcbikeski on Apr-25-13 11:43 AM (EST)
Personally I would make sure I'm fully backed up then keep the laptop hidden in the car. If the data is safe but someone steals my car the laptop would not be high on my list of concerns. You just want to hide it well enough than they don't casually break in and grab it.
I've done both, but usually truck it|
Posted by: Glenn_MacGrady on Apr-25-13 12:12 PM (EST)
I have taken my laptop in my canoe in a waterproof camera bag on day trips just because I feared break-ins to my van. However, the vast majority of time I leave it in the van. I carry so much stuff of value to me in my van that the laptop just goes into the break-in risk pool. Plus, my Voyageur waterproof camera bag finally broke after 25 years.
If in the car|
Posted by: carldelo on Apr-25-13 4:19 PM (EST)
you might tuck it in with the spare tire, if you have one. On some cars the spare is under a panel under a carpet in the trunk. But what about the temperature inside a car in the summer? In the NY area, I'd worry about cooking the bits.
checking here |
Posted by: suzanneh on Apr-25-13 5:13 PM (EST)
And see if someone here is close to where you are starting from and can leave a packed bag and pick up at the end of the trip. I wouldn't want to leave it in a locked hot car nor take it in the kayak. Even if you buy a good protective case you then give up space in the kayak for it.
Posted by: mjamja on Apr-25-13 5:52 PM (EST)
1. Mail it to yourself at general delivery.
Posted by: Reefmonkey on Apr-25-13 6:20 PM (EST)
Greyhound bus terminal rental lockers (if they still have those post 9/11)
Those are my worries|
Posted by: Waterbird on Apr-25-13 10:17 PM (EST)
I take too many trips to fool around with FedEx etc.
double drybag it anyway|
Posted by: kayamedic on Apr-25-13 10:37 PM (EST)
This is no time to invite Murphy to go with you.
Personal data worries? PGP or TrueCrypt|
Posted by: somalley on May-06-13 2:45 PM (EST)
If you've got sensitive data on your laptop, it should be encrypted. Use PGP, TrueCrypt, or something similar to render the data useless to anyone who steals the unit. Or if you're really paranoid, spring for a hardware-based encryption system.
Posted by: Waterbird on May-04-13 4:44 PM (EST)
So I put the laptop in the hatch inside a couple of plastic bags (not drybags). Not a drop of water got inside the hatch.
Posted by: CEWilson on May-04-13 9:51 PM (EST)
Pelly makes waterproof laptop cases, but yeah, if under used, home may be safer, depending on home perimeters.
Ha! That's true!|
Posted by: Waterbird on May-04-13 10:24 PM (EST)
Your house is at risk just as well when you're out in the puckerbrush for a week.
back-up and encrypt|
Posted by: RubricOfRuin on May-05-13 5:30 AM (EST)
regularly back-up your data and have hardware-based full disk encryption with separate encrypted folders for personal things (banking etc). I'm not in the least worried somone pinched my laptop - not only data is useless, it is also boobytrapped to call me back if the idiot tries to switch it on connected ot the net. Though encryption to the standard I use is illegal where I live, frankly, I could not care less.
Posted by: jonsprag1 on May-05-13 7:45 AM (EST)
is back at your office--that way you can enjoy your vacation without distractions
Posted by: magooch on May-05-13 10:22 AM (EST)
Personally, I would be much more concerned about my vehicle than I would be about the contents. If the parking was less than secure, I would try to find a better place to park. No paddling adventure is enhanced by having to worry about returning to a break-in, or vandalism to your car.
Posted by: paddletothesea on May-05-13 3:40 PM (EST)
How far is your launch from a town?|
Posted by: timothy585 on May-05-13 5:00 PM (EST)
I've done this before and usually I'll spend an extra $30-$40 for cab ride from and back to town. I sleep MUCH better at night knowing my car and equipment is at a much safer location, i.e. airport lot or even a 24 hour major convenience or grocery store, than sitting at a launch. This is easily done of course if you are not hauling the canoe on top of the vehicle you want to leave in town. But, if then, it's not that bad. Unload your equipment at the launch...have someone watch it while you drive back to town, park somewhere safe and take a cab back to the launch. Now if you're launch is 30 miles from the nearest town...well, I dunno.
Pelican laptop cases are good|
Posted by: WestCoastPaddler on May-05-13 5:58 PM (EST)
I often take my laptop when kayaking (and I don't care what others think about it -- if they would rather be inside working, that's their business -- me? I'd rather be working on a picturesque beach somewhere instead of in a stuffy office).
Posted by: pamskee on May-06-13 12:59 AM (EST)
The techno hubby needs to stay in touch (we have our own biz)so he usually has nerd foof along. Pelican has kept the electronics safe and we haul the travel guitar in a Watershed bag. We've left items in the care of outfitters or innkeepers with satisfactory results. Don't leave stuff in a hot car.