How helpful are the various kayak shops in your area ?
Do they address the questions you have with knowledgeable
folks and solid advice or leave folks hanging to ask
upon these forum pages ?
Just curious how available info is in different areas.
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Posted by: slushpaddler on Apr-14-13 2:43 PM (EST)
Michigan kayak shops|
Posted by: RavenWing on Apr-14-13 5:41 PM (EST)
all the ones named by slushpaddler are very good. Over at RKC I've noticed a few of their expert paddlers (on Team P&H, instructors) have rotated on to other things. For ww boating I'd definitely go w. Dana Corbett at Kayak Corral - he got into that over 30 years ago. They're also pretty smart about fishing SOTs.
I got to meet Stan|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Apr-14-13 5:45 PM (EST)
It was an honor.
Kansas City Paddler|
Posted by: redmond on Apr-14-13 2:57 PM (EST)
is a great little shop. Knowledgeable, they have a lot of kayaks from high-end stuff to rec boats. Good folks, we're incredibly blessed to have them here.
Kayak shop? |
Posted by: FatElmo on Apr-14-13 4:22 PM (EST)
Hell no... Only call "Canoo shops" fer dis here varmint!
We don't have one.|
Posted by: Yanoer on Apr-14-13 4:23 PM (EST)
Posted by: Dr_Disco on Apr-14-13 4:39 PM (EST)
in East Lansing, MI. Most of the staff have take instruction and/or are experienced paddlers. The manager for stores in the area is a certified instructor.
Posted by: RavenWing on Apr-14-13 5:29 PM (EST)
that came in ~14 mos ago w. the new GM Trey Rouss. he previously managed the Lansing location.
that's good to hear|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Apr-14-13 5:42 PM (EST)
I've driven by that Brighton shop but have never stopped in. Will have to correct that.
Tussey Mountain Outfitters|
Posted by: Big_Dave on Apr-14-13 4:49 PM (EST)
In Bellefonte, PA. Ed Bowman knows his stuff and carries a nice line of boats and paddling equipment. Always helpful.
What do you mean by a kayak shop|
Posted by: kayamedic on Apr-14-13 4:58 PM (EST)
or canoe shop..? A retailer of a bunch of different boats? Plus associated gear.
My advice--- consider the Discussion|
Posted by: g2d on Apr-14-13 5:58 PM (EST)
Forum. This is a strange topic for the Advice board.
dilemma / paradox|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Apr-14-13 6:02 PM (EST)
It's a discussion about Help!
It's a lecture in disguise.|
Posted by: g2d on Apr-14-13 10:05 PM (EST)
I give lectures, too, but I don't couch them in the form of a survey.
Yes. Been good for me a a novice|
Posted by: monstor on Apr-14-13 6:37 PM (EST)
Always had good experiences with the crew down at Confluence Kayaks in Denver. They have helped me with gear, paddles, and dry top repair.
They don't get any better...|
Posted by: ebanista on Apr-15-13 4:25 AM (EST)
...than the California Canoe and Kayak (CCK) stores in Oakland, Sacramento and Half Moon Bay. They've been here for 40 years and have sponsored and/or supported countless non-profit and informational events in that time.
Bill & Pauls in Grand Rapids has|
Posted by: shirlann on Apr-15-13 6:33 AM (EST)
I second that!|
Posted by: monstor on Apr-15-13 6:42 AM (EST)
Posted by: willi_h2o on Apr-15-13 9:10 AM (EST)
why do you think that's funny?|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Apr-15-13 9:13 AM (EST)
There are regular forum participants here who have proven expertise. Bnystrom's vast resources regarding kayak repair and outfitting is just one example. Additionally, the website is a click away.
Posted by: willi_h2o on Apr-15-13 9:57 AM (EST)
you don't seem to understand|
Posted by: kayamedic on Apr-15-13 10:03 AM (EST)
that many people do NOT have a "local" kayak shop.
No dis or misunderstanding|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Apr-15-13 1:59 PM (EST)
what's wrong with both?|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Apr-15-13 10:14 AM (EST)
Good to have both if you can, but|
Posted by: pikabike on Apr-18-13 2:11 AM (EST)
...one of the draws to posting on a board like this one is that there is no obligation to buy anything from the people who answer you. When you call a shop, there's always an implication that somewhere down the line you should buy from them. If they're a good shop they'll answer questions without making you feel like a jerk, but even so, I don't like to push too much for free info when their clock is running and they might have actual in-person customers *right there* waiting for the staff to get off the phone!
At no stage in my 40 year paddling |
Posted by: g2d on Apr-15-13 10:51 AM (EST)
career have I found boat shop advice to be adequate to my needs. Not even at Nantahala Outdoor Center, where I have bought several of my boats.
Posted by: richardp on Apr-18-13 10:12 AM (EST)
I would never call a shop for advice unless I was planning on buying from them.
And U have to expect them to try to sell|
Posted by: clarion on Apr-18-13 10:32 AM (EST)
So this is a waste of time thread about|
Posted by: clarion on Apr-15-13 11:03 AM (EST)
... what exactly? People supposedly wasting their time starting threads?
We are blessed|
Posted by: rjd9999 on Apr-15-13 11:13 AM (EST)
with 3 excellent shops I've worked with in the SF Bay and Monterey Area. Someone already mentioned CCK (there is one in Sacramento as well), but I'll add Sea Trek (Sausalito) and Monterey Bay Kayaks (I think you can figure out where MBK might be) to the list.
Anyone Call a Kayak Shop|
Posted by: gwonhoff on Apr-15-13 11:37 AM (EST)
Steve and Bonnie at Scappoose Bay Kayaking in Oregon are very knowledgeable and helpful. They can and will answer any and all questions asked.
here's a nice website resource|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Apr-15-13 1:04 PM (EST)
Posted by: Waterbird on Apr-15-13 7:21 PM (EST)
Spans the whole gamut of the human personality and intelligence
Posted by: Marshall on Apr-17-13 2:22 PM (EST)
So on the flip side, who lives someplace where there isn't a paddling shop within 75 miles (arbitrary distance)? Let's use specialty shops here rather than include large box stores, just for the heck of it.
someone should create a map|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Apr-17-13 2:36 PM (EST)
would only use shop for select info|
Posted by: jcbikeski on Apr-17-13 3:00 PM (EST)
Even with a top notch shop you may not reach the top notch person on a call. The shop may cater more to lower level paddlers making questions such as good rock gardening boats tough for them. They may tend to advice purchasing only the brands they happen to carry. They may give overly conservative advise not knowing you and not wanting liability. None of this means you shouldn't ask your shop questions, but it does mean you may want to compare that advice with other sources.
Proximity to large water bodies|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Apr-17-13 3:41 PM (EST)
it is interesting to ponder|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Apr-17-13 4:18 PM (EST)
One would expect to find them in MI along the great lakes, near denser populations, and in the case of anything above Clare, probably has to be a resort or vacation destination as well. As I mentioned earlier, the shops I noted don't seem like they're having an easy go of it in this economy.
Great Lakes Basin|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Apr-17-13 4:28 PM (EST)
The more shops there are, the less |
Posted by: g2d on Apr-17-13 5:10 PM (EST)
they're likely to know. If I ran smack into one, I might check with them about local river conditions. But having driven around the perimeter of the lower peninsula, and across the top of the UP, without even *seeing* what I would call a real paddling shop (rather than a rec boat rental), I don't believe your claim that Michigan has some wealth of so-called knowledge.
The USA with all it's coastline......|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Apr-17-13 7:54 PM (EST)
Posted by: jcbikeski on Apr-17-13 8:02 PM (EST)
First off I suspect that many that consider starting kayaking DO talk to folks in a kayak or other sporting good store. Which store they go to relates both to what is available and how well they advertise since, after all, these are new paddlers that don't yet know where best to go. So they may end up in a big box store for lack of knowing kayak specialty shops even exist.
shops are great resources|
Posted by: tdaniel on Apr-17-13 10:17 PM (EST)
and as good as the folks running them. I'm fortunate to live near Ace whitewater located in Fayetteville WV. Not only can I get great info and demo boats but I also take adavantage of the "free" shuttle they offer weekly. Brad is always ready to share his knowledge about boats. I also deal a lot with Whitewater Warehouse out of Dayton Ohio. The coowner, Bernie, is an old paddlin' buddy who'll deliver merchandise and boats to my door. My point is these people actively boat, are passionate about boating, and enjoy interacting with others. Yet, there's nothing wrong with getting some other opinions or perspectives. That's a good thing.
I suppose |
Posted by: pirateoverforty on Apr-17-13 11:14 PM (EST)
everyone who called a kayak shop and got their questions answered never checked in here.
how do you know people don't call |
Posted by: slushpaddler on Apr-18-13 9:48 AM (EST)
Local shops for advice? Maybe they do both - call local shops and ask other paddlers.
I shop at NOC|
Posted by: wh2ofox on Apr-17-13 10:52 PM (EST)