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  Hydrus material
  Posted by: old_user on Apr-09-13 6:58 PM (EST)
   Category: Other Gear 

OK, time for a new drytop.
Has anyone experience with Kokataks new Hydrus material for drytops and drysuits? Breathability, feel, durability, etc. Big price difference from gortex.

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  Logically speaking
  Posted by: RubricOfRuin on Apr-10-13 9:08 AM (EST)
If it is significantly cheaper than Gore-Tex and sold by someone who are ahousehold name in Gore-Texx, the price difference probably reflects the quality difference?
  Posted by: suzanneh on Apr-10-13 9:51 AM (EST)
The Hydrus 3L material from Kokatat is being used in many products:

It is Kokatat's proprietary fabric. It is a relaunch of the T3 material and has new colors along with a lifetime warranty. Perhaps you could ask if anyone has a drysuit made from the T3 material as that has been around for awhile. The Hydrus 3L was launched in January so fewer people have tried it.

As a sales rep for Kokatat, I try all the fabrics. I find that on a scale of 1-10 with 10 the best,for breathability, giving the Gore-Tex 3.21 Evolution (material used for my Expedition drysuit) a 10, the Hydrus 3L, I would give it an 8.

In testing it appears to be very durable and so Kokatat is offering their lifetime warranty on the material. Should the material fail, the product will be replaced. I feel that for consumers, it makes the decision easier to give the less expensive material a try.

I find that when comparing the feel of the material, it feels a bit stiffer and not quite as quiet a material as the GT products.

For pricing - a good way to compare is to look at a product that is made in both materials:

Hydrus 3L Tempest pant: $176
Gore-Tex Tempest pant:$295

Harder to compare the drysuits - same cut different material because the zippers are different. But, here they are (both are men's suits priced with relief zipper and socks):

Hydrus Meridian: $775
Gore-Tex Meridian: $1030

When making the material decision in your clothing, you can decide what value you place in breathability and the ability for a garment to move moisture. Perhaps the user knows that their personal use of the garment will be limited or they just "don't sweat" (some people tell me that!), they may prefer to save the money on the material.

I don't know if I agree with Rubric's opinion that price reflects quality... I believe price reflects different materials used.

Would you say that a boat made in fiberglass and same boat made in plastic are priced to reflect quality? They are priced differently because the materials used cost differently. Having different material options allows the purchaser to choose products based on the value they put on the options.

Hope the info is helpful to you.

  nice work, thanks
  Posted by: slushpaddler on Apr-10-13 9:56 AM (EST)
I especially like your point regarding the personal value of breathability.
  Same material?
  Posted by: old_user on Apr-10-13 11:00 AM (EST)
Is the Hydrus material the same as the old Tropos material with just a different name, or is it a different fabric? If it is different, what are the differences.
Thanks, Peter
  Hydrus NOT Tropos
  Posted by: suzanneh on Apr-10-13 12:45 PM (EST)
Tropos is a two layer coated material. Material carries a 2 year warranty.
Hydrus is a 3 layer fabric (has the inner scrim which improves breathability, comfort, durability)Material carries a 2 year warranty.

Hydrus is NOT a renamed Tropos.
  something esle
  Posted by: old_user on Apr-10-13 1:44 PM (EST)
is warranty. Especially in drysuits. Kokatat Gore-tex carried lifetime warranty, it means if it fails after two tears due to fabric issues they will replace/fix it. If you have 2 years warranty and then run into issues on the 3rd year, that's it.
  Posted by: suzanneh on Apr-10-13 2:43 PM (EST)
Hydrus is Kokatat's proprietary fabric. It is ALSO covered by the lifetime warranty - directly from Kokatat.

The same people that make the Gore-Tex products are making the Hydrus in the same US factory in California.
  my mistake
  Posted by: old_user on Apr-10-13 3:12 PM (EST)


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