Trimming a solo canoe for a dog
Posted by: perrahunter on Apr-07-13 11:41 PM (EST) Category: unassigned
Hi, first time poster but long time lurker. My question has to do with trimming a solo canoe to accommodate my new dog.
I would really like to get one of the faster solo canoes for day trips with my dog.
I am interested in paddling with some of the local kayak groups in my area. While they are not exactly speed demons, they do paddle a lot faster and farther than my old Grumman 15 will take me. Given my ever shrinking budget, I'm probably looking at some of the older performance models. For example I missed a Jensen 18 for $500 a while ago, and there is a Sawyer DY Special being listed here for $700 now (I found a nice pic a a guy paddling his DY Special with the dog in the back and his camping gear in the front).
So my question is this: paddling one of these boats with a 55 pound dog in front of me is going to change the trim quite a bit. Would I be better off moving the seat back to compensate for the dog? Generally, how far back can you move the seat before you run into problems with that? On the other hand, would water jugs behind me be a better option? I'm not wild about that idea just because of the added weight.
My paddling weight is about 170, the dog weighs 55 and maybe 20 pounds for the lunch cooler and other stuff. The dog does have to be in the front for a bunch of reasons.
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Posted by: angstrom on Apr-08-13 8:52 AM (EST)
I'd try changing the seat position first. I've got a solo set up to be trim with an 80-pound dog in front of me, and it works fine for the paddling we do.
Posted by: CEWilson on Apr-08-13 9:14 AM (EST)
Installing a sliding seat might be the best concept.
Where are you located?|
Posted by: clarion on Apr-08-13 10:49 AM (EST)
I've got a kevlar performance solo with a slider that I may sell. I'm in western PA.
Water is cheap|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Apr-08-13 12:21 PM (EST)
At 8lbs a gallon, 4 milk jugs might just do it.
Another good thing about ballast|
Posted by: guideboatguy on Apr-08-13 12:34 PM (EST)
A second dog is not that far fetched|
Posted by: perrahunter on Apr-08-13 11:36 PM (EST)
A second dog is not that far fetched. My old dog Perra, who moved to the suburbs a few years ago, loves canoeing. She just loves to stand up tall on the fore deck of the Grumman, which was fine because I was paddling backwards from the front seat. In a solo boat I could keep the new dog a lot closer to the center with me.
Two dogs, bow and stern. |
Posted by: ezwater on Apr-08-13 4:50 PM (EST)
Gonna depend on the dog and boat|
Posted by: Pyker on Apr-09-13 8:56 AM (EST)
I've had several dogs over the years in the 45 to 55 pound range. My current solo boat is a Bell Magic and a well behaved dog that likes to sit in the bottom goes right between my legs and essentially becomes additional weight in the center of the boat with no effect on trim.