I need to replace yet another cracked and leaking Valley oval hatch cover. Any advice on the choice between the SeaLect Classic vs Perfomance materials as to fit to existing Valley rim, water-tight integrity and ease of on and off? Recommended on-line vendor?
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I have both|
Posted by: gnarlydog on Mar-26-13 10:52 PM (EST)
I have been offered by SEA-LECT Design the opportunity to test both and have been doing so for a while.
tether points on both?|
Posted by: andy on Mar-27-13 7:58 AM (EST)
I did check your smart website first before posting. I see the round ones have 3 underside tether tabs. How about the ovals? I know the Performance are reported to float but I always have a line on the VCP's. Minor rant - last time I bought a Valley oval, I had to cull through all 8 the shop had to find the one with the least of similar defects from what appeared to be a worn mould.
all hatch covers have tether|
Posted by: gnarlydog on Mar-28-13 1:11 AM (EST)
all of my SEA-LECT Design hatch covers have multiple tether points, the round and the oval one, Classic or Performance. I do tether all of my covers and admittedly some of the Valley ones had the tab rip out quite easily.
JUST SWAPPED MINE |
Posted by: scupperfrank on Mar-27-13 1:11 AM (EST)
Curious if you are using on composite/RM|
Posted by: wetzool on Mar-28-13 9:44 AM (EST)
I have tried the classic ovals on older Valley RM boats that have the black (non-RM rim) and found they leak. Curious if you are recommending on composite/RM or both. The round hatch works great. I know some of the new Valley boats have RM rims. Are the black rims Valley uses on the RM boats the same as the ones used on composite boats?
2006 vintage Q boat|
Posted by: andy on Mar-28-13 10:27 AM (EST)
I look forward to see how the Sealect holds up. This is my third oval replacement for failed VCP hatches. In spite of covered storage, regular 303 treatment and fairly gentle install and removal, they just rot, tear and crumble. Even brand new the VCP are full of gouges and divots from worn out moulds. Not worth $85 and having to cull through dealer's stock to find the least defective one.
valley hatch rims|
Posted by: landsharc on Mar-29-13 9:52 AM (EST)
I have an avocet with the black plastic rims and the big bow & stern leak. I asked sea-lect about this and they said that there could be batches of rims out there that didnt quite meet tolerances but are still fine with the vcp covers. I measured my rims and and they were slightly off of the dimensions that they should have been. but enough to leak. I also wonder if the performance would take care of that. BTW I wrapped some weather stripping around the colars and that makes a good seal with the cover. just don't know how long it will last
Posted by: wetzool on Mar-29-13 10:03 AM (EST)
exactly with two RM Avocets, and I also have an old Wilderness Systems glass boat with a Valley oval and that is even worse. You don't happen to remember the specs for circumference? I'd be interested in measuring mine. Might also try the weather seal.
Posted by: landsharc on Mar-29-13 11:19 AM (EST)
Sea-lect sent me the dims in an e-mail long ago of what the rims should be and I dont have that anymore. you may be able to get good numbers off kayakproshop.com or.net. They usually show rim size for lids and they have the vcp and sea-lects listed with needed rim size dimensions. It may help. I have a friend with a pre 2006 avocet rm when it was still single ply plastic, but still with the black plastic rims and he is getting almost no water at all.
Where to find the classic?|
Posted by: NateHanson on Mar-29-13 11:44 AM (EST)
also easier to pop off|
Posted by: gnarlydog on Apr-01-13 7:57 PM (EST)
I find that the Performance SEA-LECT Design oval hatch covers are easier to pop on and also to pop off.