As a cyclist, I am accustomed to peddling constantly with very little coasting. As a somewhat new flatwater kayaker I would like to duplicate that feeling yet I feel a need to take pretty frequent breaks . My low angle paddling stroke seems good with torso rotation and no wrist discomfort. It seems like slowing down the stroke helps, but I seem to be always speeding up. Granted this is not the biggest problem, do I need to just get more paddling in? I am going for 6 mile paddles a couple times a week right now. Thanks for the help
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Posted by: radiomix on Mar-24-13 7:29 PM (EST)
It takes a bit to get into it. Paddling more will definitely help, developing the muscles and such. Also occupying your mind can help. I know its impossible to tell yourself to stop thinking about it, but try not to think about it. Also, try to paddle with your head up and focus on things in the distance to set short term goals. You will eventually hit a grove and find yourself paddling non stop for miles.
Try something different ...|
Posted by: seadart on Mar-24-13 8:27 PM (EST)
High angle europaddle: Get a shorter paddle with a wider blade, preferably light and well made.
2nd the GP|
Posted by: VK1NF on Mar-24-13 8:43 PM (EST)
Using a Greenland paddle just naturally sets a sustainable pace for me - a comfortable cruising speed that doesn't fatigue. I find the relatively narrow blade of the GP 'catches' really smoothly, and the buoyancy of the wood seems to make the stroke's exit easier. It's not hard to overpower the blade, and this sort of acts as a governor to keep stroke effort low.
Posted by: carldelo on Mar-24-13 9:49 PM (EST)
I second all of this advice, it exactly characterizes my experience with the GP.
Same for AP|
Posted by: bartc on Mar-25-13 12:09 AM (EST)
Aleut paddle is very similar in this regard. Made for high cadence, low angle, long distance endurance paddling. Low impact on the body too.
Paddles make a huge difference|
Posted by: trvlrerik on Mar-24-13 8:31 PM (EST)
Paddle weight makes a huge difference over distance, you are swinging the weight of a paddle thousands of times in a mile. Paddle cadence can also be effected by blade size and stroke duration.
just a matter of getting in shape|
Posted by: CapeFear on Mar-24-13 11:31 PM (EST)
Like running or whatever, it's just a matter of getting in better shape. The difference between a weak paddler and strong paddler is not the paddle type - no magic paddle out there to make you a stronger paddler. Like every other physical sport, you iron out technique, and it simply takes work. Barring some special physical condition, you can paddle non-stop just like you bike.
Smaller blades for me, as well as |
Posted by: Yanoer on Mar-24-13 11:42 PM (EST)
Posted by: clydehedlund on Mar-25-13 6:06 AM (EST)
You'll eventually be able to paddle without frequent breaks like you do bicycling. Your body is learning a new movement and needs time to adjust. Kick it up to 3 days a week to help speed up the process.
Right away, I caught that you use a low |
Posted by: jackl on Mar-25-13 6:13 AM (EST)
Posted by: suiram on Mar-25-13 8:00 AM (EST)
From your profile - your paddling experience is quite limited.
Posted by: saxonsigerson on Mar-25-13 9:25 AM (EST)
Thanks so much for all the ideas and suggestions, very helpful, will go to work on them.
Different paddling gears........|
Posted by: willi_h2o on Mar-25-13 9:34 AM (EST)
Posted by: Dgremlin on Mar-25-13 8:48 PM (EST)
I have a friend who has a kayak tour company and he taught me a stroke he uses. You take 3 strokes on your paddle, then rest for one stroke, then 3 more, rest one, etc. It doesn't seem like much but over the course of the day it does seem to make a difference.
Posted by: seadart on Mar-25-13 9:10 PM (EST)
GPS & pace yourself|
Posted by: edzep on Mar-25-13 9:32 PM (EST)
Posted by: hodtay on Mar-26-13 1:02 AM (EST)
Combine time on the water with stroke instruction and then practice proper technique.
paddling vs. cycling|
Posted by: Jaybabina on Mar-26-13 8:06 AM (EST)
Boats never coast. You are always breaking water. It's like cycling uphill all the time. So you have to pace yourself. Pace doesn't mean slow, it just means that until you develop the stamina, you learn what your body can do for extended periods. In the spring, I have to really pace myself from overheating in a drysuit and from not paddling all winter.
Sprints really help|
Posted by: FrankNC on Mar-26-13 11:03 AM (EST)
For me, sprints are the fastest way to improve form and endurance. What I try to do is five sprints of one minute each at a fast pace (where I cannot talk) with five rests between and a fast cruising pace (Just able to hold a conversation) and repeat for more times.
Posted by: CEWilson on Mar-26-13 5:33 PM (EST)
Find "the Barton Mold" by Bill Endicott of USACKT.
Push Off The Balls of Your Feet|
Posted by: clydehedlund on Mar-27-13 1:29 AM (EST)
so many ideas|
Posted by: saxonsigerson on Mar-28-13 8:47 AM (EST)
Wow! 21 replies, thanks again to all, will be on the water this Easter weekend to start working these thoughts into my paddle time, Cheers, Saxon
2nd seadart's post|
Posted by: slushpaddler on Mar-28-13 1:23 PM (EST)
Try a high angle paddle and stroke. Make sure your stroke isn't too long; that's often why people don't keep a continuous speed. Try messing with your cadence.
Efficient Low Angle Stroke|
Posted by: clydehedlund on Mar-29-13 7:50 AM (EST)
That's good for 300 miles or more. Check out:
Posted by: gstamer on Mar-30-13 5:37 AM (EST)
Good, I'm not the only small blade guy.|
Posted by: Yanoer on Mar-30-13 8:53 AM (EST)
Posted by: ppine on Mar-30-13 11:21 AM (EST)
Good post. I used to have a landscape company. Moving dirt on the surface with a large landscape rake or a shovel can be used to duplicate a paddling stroke. My paddling became much stronger after starting the company and working at it for about 6 months.
Posted by: clydehedlund on Mar-31-13 4:58 PM (EST)