Planning a kayak trip up to Georgian Bay sometime in July this year. I have a Kokatat Goretex drysuit but if the air temp is in the 80'sF range and what I just looked up online that water temps are between 60F and 65F in July I was wondering what would you were? I could just use my drysuit and do some rolls to cool off but not sure that would be all that great. I have a solid roll and can cowboy scramble in pretty rough conditions plus paddle float by re-enter and roll myself up with float in really rough conditions.Installing electric bilge pump as soon as it warms up, have all the parts now.
Would possibly a shorty wetsuit 2mm be better. I never owned a wetsuit so no experience with wetsuits. Any other thoughts?
Also carry VHF and have PLB. Kayak Greenlander Pro use greenland paddle and carry storm paddle for spare.
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Posted by: g2d on Mar-03-13 2:24 PM (EST)
never experienced a day over 80 degrees. Plus, there's usually a breeze.
what I do|
Posted by: Peter-CA on Mar-03-13 2:25 PM (EST)
What I do is all based on water temps. Water below 60 for me always requires a wet suit or dry suit (usually dry suit). Above 70 and usually nothing, it is that 60-70 range I start varying depending on air temp and other conditions (such as my likelihood of swimming).
Posted by: dc9mm on Mar-03-13 4:44 PM (EST)
I also do have a new drytop I got for christmas a NRS revolution not gortex but some kind of breathable fabric. Havent used it yet.
Typical summer here ...|
Posted by: seadart on Mar-03-13 6:00 PM (EST)
water temps 60-65 degrees much of the year. If the air temperature is really warm, I'm usually fine with board shorts and a rash guard. If a bit cooler I have 2 mm trunks and top, fromm Oneil. I use them about 6 -8 months of the year. If you are alone or offshore wear the neoprene, and roll or splash yourself to cool off.
Posted by: bmach1 on Mar-03-13 9:54 PM (EST)
Funny we talk about this but if you we're at the beach and it was 85 and the water was 66, what would you wear then?
Posted by: Peter-CA on Mar-04-13 1:23 AM (EST)
When I am at the beach, I chose if and for how long I am in the water. If I get chilled, I get out and warm up.
Wide temp variations in Georgian Bay|
Posted by: kayamedic on Mar-03-13 10:35 PM (EST)
I've been there....|
Posted by: ByronWalter on Mar-03-13 10:55 PM (EST)
...several times under similar conditions and have been fine with a tee shirt and shorts. Once there was a period of about 36 hours of light rain. For that I used a breathable top with a hood (temp dropped to mid 60s). However each time I was with a group and we were never far from land.
Posted by: underhills on Mar-04-13 8:54 AM (EST)
Buy a farmer john wet suit off eBay, you shouldn't pay more than $40 for one. Forget the dry suit you will be to hot in one and would be tempted to not wear any insulation under it. Remember dry suits get their thermal protection from what you wear under it not the dry suit. If you go in the water you will be warm enough. Also take a dry top so you can shed it if you get too hot, your body core will be protected by the wet suit.
regardless of location|
Posted by: suzanneh on Mar-04-13 9:18 AM (EST)
Air temp 85 water 60-65F
I have the male version of that...|
Posted by: ByronWalter on Mar-04-13 11:12 AM (EST)
...and it is very comfortable in warmer weather. However there have been two issues for me: 1) the neck seal allows a little water in and 2) the synthetic zipper leaks ever so slightly (even with zipper wax). Overall the paddling suit would not be the best for an extended swim. It now serves as my plan B.
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Posted by: dc9mm on Mar-04-13 12:31 PM (EST)
I looked further into air temps as I just took a guess at what they would be. It appears from what people here have said hear and what I could find out online air temps hover around 70 to 75F in July. I could do my drysuit but maybe a farmer john with my drytop would be better.
Posted by: underhills on Mar-04-13 1:07 PM (EST)
I would look at a wet suit designed for paddling (NRS) if you are going to get one. They are cut different and generally have two different thicknesses of neoprene depending where they are on the body. I got mine and my wife's wetsuits for under $40 new off eBay, like you I didn't want a used wetsuit especially one that had been used for diving. There is no reason to pay $140 for one.
Posted by: NateHanson on Mar-04-13 2:05 PM (EST)
The amount of stretch does make a noticable difference. If buying a full suit or shorty suit, I'd definitely get a good stretchy suit. But for a farmer john I think it's less important. Might be better to get a paddling specific farmer john in that case.
I'd dress for air temp|
Posted by: Glenn_MacGrady on Mar-04-13 2:12 PM (EST)
Posted by: dc9mm on Mar-04-13 4:12 PM (EST)
Well when I go to Georgian Bay I do plan on paddling far from shore to many different islands. Could be out from shore as far as a mile or so sometimes.