In south Louisiana, we canoe year-round. This morning it was about 50 degrees when I left at 7am. My boats are wet foot entry. Despite my neoprene boots, NRS Desperados, when I returned 2.5 hours later, the whole front half of each foot was numb. Loaded the boat on the van, drove 3/4 mile home, went inside - still numb. My feet were so cold that my tile bathroom floor, which generally feels like I'm standing on an iceberg, felt warm. Even after a shower, the tips of my toes were still tingly. How do you guys keep your feet warm?
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You get used to it. |
Posted by: rpg51 on Feb-09-13 5:24 PM (EST)
You get used to it. Dry suit helps.
Sounds like you might have borderline |
Posted by: ezwater on Feb-09-13 5:35 PM (EST)
Raynauds, like me. The most peripheral capillaries in the limbs tend to constrict.
and on that line of reasoning...|
Posted by: ByronWalter on Feb-09-13 11:04 PM (EST)
"Raynauds, like me. The most peripheral capillaries in the limbs tend to constrict."
Yeah, he should bring it to his doctor's|
Posted by: ezwater on Feb-10-13 12:51 AM (EST)
attention. Incipient diabetes, peripheral neuropathy.
Get a pair of NRS Boundary boots|
Posted by: Jackl on Feb-09-13 5:37 PM (EST)
the worst your feet will get is a little clammy. Wear smart wool socks or any kind of Marino wool socks in them and you'll be a happy paddler
Posted by: old_user on Feb-09-13 7:10 PM (EST)
We paddle all winter (Michigan).
Posted by: willi_h2o on Feb-09-13 7:46 PM (EST)
2nd Jack and Willie re Wool Socks|
Posted by: VK1NF on Feb-09-13 8:26 PM (EST)
Good wool socks - merino or Smartwool - are one of creations gifts to man. They can help keep feet warm even when wet. I get 'em at Costco - about $12.00 for three pairs.
Kneeling or sitting?|
Posted by: Yanoer on Feb-09-13 9:55 PM (EST)
My feet definitely get colder when kneeling than sitting - even with Chota Mukluk Lites & wool socks.
May Sound Crazy|
Posted by: dougd on Feb-09-13 10:03 PM (EST)
but I have Muck Boots. In NH we paddle until it freezes and the when it let off we go back out. Gotta have some good boots. Muck Boots are the best I have found, I use the Artic style which I have found good to about 20 below and at a knee high boot it is good for getting in and out of boats even if there is mud. Just my .02.
Posted by: rival51 on Feb-09-13 10:40 PM (EST)
I get the Sorels out when the temps get into the 20s. Those & good wool socks are good down to around 0. Below that it's just cold.
Smart wool and Chota Mukluks |
Posted by: string on Feb-09-13 11:40 PM (EST)
and I live in the south.
Posted by: pikabike on Feb-10-13 1:35 AM (EST)
I use the same shoes. One pair goes over bare feet when I wear a wetsuit. Another pair one size larger goes over drysuit "socks" which themselves fit over light wool socks.
Posted by: pblanc on Feb-10-13 6:58 AM (EST)
Sounds to me like you had a case of frostnip, especially if you noted any pallor (paleness) of the skin of your forefoot.
Posted by: suiram on Feb-10-13 9:25 AM (EST)
Let's assume that you do not have any medical conditions - read above.
Wow - you guys are awesome!|
Posted by: davavd on Feb-10-13 9:47 AM (EST)
I never expected such a response! OK, more info: I'm 60, and I have had pre-ventricular contractions in the past, but they are presently under control, per my cardiologist, but I will talk to him about the issue of cold feet. I'm paddling a 10.5' pack canoe/double paddle, and my gps said I averaged 3.78 mph for 2.5 hours. I have had a "cold feet" problem for as long as I can remember. I was wearing the neoprene boots over bare feet, nylon running pants, a long-sleeve cotton t-shirt, and a goretex rain jacket, with a wool stocking cap on my head and gloves. There was wind, though I did alter course to hide from it when possible. When I got back, my t-shirt was soaked with sweat, so I think I'd have been uncomfortable with more insulation on top.
My extremities always get cold, fast|
Posted by: old_user on Feb-10-13 11:44 AM (EST)
So if I have to work outside, or I go biking for an hour or two, I use toasty toes or foot warmers in my shoes. I've never tried it but maybe using both at the same time will keep your feet warm.
Posted by: guideboatguy on Feb-10-13 11:50 AM (EST)
I read your additional details, and then I did what I should have done before replying the first time. I looked up the NRS Desparado boots, and after seeing exactly what they are, I deleted my earlier reply because now it's clear to me that your boots are just a really bad choice for a person who's feet tend to get cold easily. In my deleted post I said that I have trouble with cold hands and feet too, but I'll add that wet neoprene is the very worst possible thing to have on my hands. In neoprene gloves my hands will become numb and useless in just a few minutes if it's raining and 45 degrees, but wool gloves in the same soaking-wet situation will keep my hands warm even below freezing. That's how terrible wet neoprene is for my hands, and I bet it's doing the same thing to your feet. Ditch the neoprene wet shoes and get some decent waterproof boots and good socks (I prefer wool, but with a synthetic liner sock so I don't have to wash the wool socks as often).
Posted by: ByronWalter on Feb-11-13 3:41 PM (EST)
"..now it's clear to me that your boots are just a really bad choice for a person who's feet tend to get cold easily.."
Posted by: paddlingpika on Feb-11-13 3:55 AM (EST)
Since it sounds like you were sitting (rather than kneeling), were your feet pressing hard against foot braces? That might cut down on circulation and add to feelings of numbness and cold.
Posted by: davavd on Feb-11-13 6:45 AM (EST)
Thanks again for all the responses. I do sit, with an inch of closed cell foam and a gel seat under me. Pushing on the footrests? I don't think so, not that much anyway. I went looking for the Chota mucklucks, but it appears no one has any - maybe they are in the process of a redesign?? Anyway, I ended up ordering the NRS Boundary Shoe, which looks about the same.
neoprene boots can have different |
Posted by: bigspencer on Feb-14-13 12:53 PM (EST)