Hello paddling friends.
I have an NDK Explorer which I do enjoy, but I am 5'8", 170 (+or−5) and the boat feels really big on me. Highly unlikely I would ever have to pack a boat for camping more than 4 days. Maybe 5 days tops. Will the Pilgrim hold a 170 man plus 60 pounds of gear? I have paddled the Pilgrim and it's a really good fit if I remove the hip pads. But I can't find max capacity specs for that kayak in any website or publication.
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Posted by: pikabike on Feb-04-13 1:52 PM (EST)
You are asking about replacing the Explorer with the Pilgrim. Or are you wanting to replace it with the Pilgrim Expedition? That's a better comparison, lengthwise, because the latter is 17' whereas the regular Pilgrim is 15'9".
Yup, I meant the Pilgrim Expedition|
Posted by: Gilh on Feb-04-13 11:07 PM (EST)
I tested the Explorere LV some years ago and opted for the Cetus LV instead. I did paddle a Pilgrim Expedition once for about 30 minutes. Not enough time to have a full experience but I loved how it rolled and most of all, how responsive it felt. My NDK Explorere is great but feels big. All in all, the bottom line is since I am not crazy about the Explorer due to size, I want a playboat that will surf as well as be camping capable and meneuverable. My Cetus LV would have hit the mark to perfection had it surfed better.
Tiderace Xcite-S or Valley Gemini ST/SP?|
Posted by: old_user on Feb-05-13 10:03 PM (EST)
Those are two or three other boats that might work really well for your size and specific stated goals.
Posted by: blackboat on Feb-07-13 3:04 PM (EST)
Xcite s is way too small for his stated usage.....even Xplore s would be really awash with 230 lbs. total payload. Pilgrim expedition would be a maybe.....Explorer lv would fit the bill perfectly, as it is the same as regular Explorer, but a snuggier cockpit....but will not work in the stock configuration if your inseam is over 32".
Posted by: old_user on Feb-07-13 9:52 PM (EST)
Maybe the regular Romany|
Posted by: pikabike on Feb-05-13 10:40 PM (EST)
More maneuverable than the Explorers or the Pilgrim Expedition, enough room to take a short camping trip. Should be a good fit for your size and weight.
Seconding a Romany|
Posted by: wilsoj2 on Feb-07-13 8:45 AM (EST)
For you desires, it seems a standard Romany might fit the bill very nicely.
Ends of the spectrum|
Posted by: Marshall on Feb-07-13 2:35 PM (EST)
I'm not sure what your Cetus isn't doing for surfing but if it's a shorter more playful surf specific boat then cut out the SUV (Sport Utility Kayak) parameter go with the P&H Aries 150 or 155 (depending on your weight)
Posted by: wilsoj2 on Feb-08-13 5:09 PM (EST)
But Gil already has a Romany|
Posted by: wetzool on Feb-08-13 5:48 PM (EST)
so, I guess you're all set!!!
Maybe Gil's just itching for another...|
Posted by: wilsoj2 on Feb-09-13 8:37 AM (EST)
"My boats, in order of paddling preference: The Cetus LV, Romany, Tahe-Marine Greenland LC & Explorer. Paddle board: Yolo Displacement and Riviera/Ron House. Novorca GP and Werner." - from GilH's profile.