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Posted by: TommyC1 on Feb-02-13 7:28 PM (EST) Category: Canoeing Technique

-- Last Updated: Feb-03-13 9:04 AM EST --

I learned today that a composite Wildfire paddles to shore quite reasonably while filled to within a few inches of the gunnels. At least that is, if you get down to the pool before you fill it too much.
I'd have thought it much more likely to roll over with that much water on board.
Erik OTOH was reminded of the folly of side surfing the rubber Wildfire/Yellowstone in ice water.
I chose not to duplicate his experiment with the composite as I'm quite certain the result would have been the same.

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Interesting - TommyC1 - Feb-02-13 7:28 PM
- Side surfing in a Yellowstone... - eckilson - Feb-03-13 6:48 AM
- Oh Yeah and - TommyC1 - Feb-03-13 9:22 AM
- Haven't tried side-surfing RX Wildfire, - Yanoer - Feb-03-13 1:29 PM
- Hey I recognize that one spot - clarion - Feb-04-13 9:43 AM
  - This One? - TommyC1 - Feb-04-13 11:50 AM
    - That's the one - clarion - Feb-04-13 11:56 AM
      - Budz thought we should go back - eckilson - Feb-05-13 5:49 AM
        
        Poling NOT - TommyC1 - Feb-05-13 11:58 AM
        Poling up Shannock - riverstrider - Feb-05-13 12:36 PM
        
        On a much warmer day ;-) - TommyC1 - Feb-07-13 11:51 AM

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  Side surfing in a Yellowstone...
  Posted by: eckilson on Feb-03-13 6:48 AM (EST)

is not recommended for icy waters, but a good drysuit definitely is.

The swim wasn't bad, but it was a little disconcerting to get my feet caught under the seat - even for a few seconds. Tommy was nice enough to grab my boat and help me get back in mid-stream - saved me a bit of a swim.

Good day all around - few pictures here:
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDRq4JJ

  Oh Yeah and
  Posted by: TommyC1 on Feb-03-13 9:22 AM (EST)

no gasping was experienced or observed.

  Haven't tried side-surfing RX Wildfire,
  Posted by: Yanoer on Feb-03-13 1:29 PM (EST)

but did go turtle in a split second in mine once while exiting an eddy perpendicular to a fast flowing chute. Never knew what hit me. Haven't made that mistake again.

Good pics from both of you.

  Hey I recognize that one spot
  Posted by: clarion on Feb-04-13 9:43 AM (EST)

That rocky rapid is the location of the very cool Riverstrider poling Photo of the Week!

  This One?
  Posted by: TommyC1 on Feb-04-13 11:50 AM (EST)

http://www.paddling.net/photography/showPhoto.html?showID=678

That's the Wood River. We were on the Pawcatuck.
It does have the same damn and bridge look.

  That's the one
  Posted by: clarion on Feb-04-13 11:56 AM (EST)

I thought I saw the same spot in this picture http://www.flickr.com/photos/9220083@N07/8440083140/in/set-72157632676469130

But now I can see I errre3d.

Good stuff getting out in the cold. Thanks for posting pics.

  Budz thought we should go back
  Posted by: eckilson on Feb-05-13 5:49 AM (EST)

and try poling back upstream. Few of the guys around here could do it, but I'm not sure about me. Looks like a nice way to wrap my boat again. Here is the short link:
http://flic.kr/p/dRPCEQ

  Poling NOT
  Posted by: TommyC1 on Feb-05-13 11:58 AM (EST)

Unless there is a way around that bottom hole I'd be very surprised if anyone could pole up the rapid.
That hole would most likely turn 'em sideways and roll 'em.
I suspect the second one up would be pretty tough as well.

  Poling up Shannock
  Posted by: riverstrider on Feb-05-13 12:36 PM (EST)

I wouldn't mind trying that. On a much warmer day. But I suspect Tommy is right...it would be a bit tricky. One would have to creep as far up to and on top of the holw as possible without being turned, set an angle, and then go for it with gusto...basically climb the pole until there is no pole left and hope it is enough.

And then set up for the next one...assuming you make it.

-rs

  On a much warmer day ;-)
  Posted by: TommyC1 on Feb-07-13 11:51 AM (EST)

With about the same water level I expect that would make a fine poling run.

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	Side surfing in a Yellowstone... Posted by: eckilson on Feb-03-13 6:48 AM (EST)
	is not recommended for icy waters, but a good drysuit definitely is. The swim wasn't bad, but it was a little disconcerting to get my feet caught under the seat - even for a few seconds. Tommy was nice enough to grab my boat and help me get back in mid-stream - saved me a bit of a swim. Good day all around - few pictures here: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDRq4JJ

	Oh Yeah and Posted by: TommyC1 on Feb-03-13 9:22 AM (EST)
	no gasping was experienced or observed.

	Haven't tried side-surfing RX Wildfire, Posted by: Yanoer on Feb-03-13 1:29 PM (EST)
	but did go turtle in a split second in mine once while exiting an eddy perpendicular to a fast flowing chute. Never knew what hit me. Haven't made that mistake again. Good pics from both of you.

	Hey I recognize that one spot Posted by: clarion on Feb-04-13 9:43 AM (EST)
	That rocky rapid is the location of the very cool Riverstrider poling Photo of the Week!

	This One? Posted by: TommyC1 on Feb-04-13 11:50 AM (EST)
	http://www.paddling.net/photography/showPhoto.html?showID=678 That's the Wood River. We were on the Pawcatuck. It does have the same damn and bridge look.

	That's the one Posted by: clarion on Feb-04-13 11:56 AM (EST)
	I thought I saw the same spot in this picture http://www.flickr.com/photos/9220083@N07/8440083140/in/set-72157632676469130 But now I can see I errre3d. Good stuff getting out in the cold. Thanks for posting pics.

	Budz thought we should go back Posted by: eckilson on Feb-05-13 5:49 AM (EST)
	and try poling back upstream. Few of the guys around here could do it, but I'm not sure about me. Looks like a nice way to wrap my boat again. Here is the short link: http://flic.kr/p/dRPCEQ

	Poling NOT Posted by: TommyC1 on Feb-05-13 11:58 AM (EST)
	Unless there is a way around that bottom hole I'd be very surprised if anyone could pole up the rapid. That hole would most likely turn 'em sideways and roll 'em. I suspect the second one up would be pretty tough as well.

	Poling up Shannock Posted by: riverstrider on Feb-05-13 12:36 PM (EST)
	I wouldn't mind trying that. On a much warmer day. But I suspect Tommy is right...it would be a bit tricky. One would have to creep as far up to and on top of the holw as possible without being turned, set an angle, and then go for it with gusto...basically climb the pole until there is no pole left and hope it is enough. And then set up for the next one...assuming you make it. -rs

	On a much warmer day ;-) Posted by: TommyC1 on Feb-07-13 11:51 AM (EST)
	With about the same water level I expect that would make a fine poling run.