Thinking about a Tempest 170
Posted by: old_user on Jan-29-13 5:42 PM (EST) Category: Kayaks
Hey guys, new member here.
So I'm thinking of buying a Tempest 170 this spring, but I don't have a lot of kayaking experience. My previous kayaking experience is mostly in an Advanced Elements inflatable/frame hybrid (the Convertible with backbone).
My question to you experts: with my limited experience, would I be able to handle a Tempest? I'm interested in a kayak that would have great tracking and cover long distances efficiently, and I figure I should get a yak I can grow into. Any thoughts?
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No expert here,|
Posted by: tjalmy on Jan-29-13 8:08 PM (EST)
but my limited experience with the T170 I feel it's a great boat. Fine glide, nice turning when edged, comfortable seating.
have a "fitting"|
Posted by: trvlrerik on Jan-29-13 8:20 PM (EST)
I agree with your logic. In hind sight I would have saved thousands of dollars by getting the boats I have now from the beginning.
Sounds good to me!|
Posted by: bowrudder on Jan-29-13 8:53 PM (EST)
Only what does "East Tennessee" mean? Are you talking rivers or lakes? A Tempest is better suited for open water.
Posted by: svenkalmar on Jan-29-13 9:11 PM (EST)
the tempest 170 is a great alround britstyle seakayak. I have one myself.
A Tempest is a great boat. I don't see |
Posted by: string on Jan-30-13 12:17 AM (EST)
your size and they are a bit like buying shoes. You need to try therm on.
get butt time|
Posted by: Peter-CA on Jan-30-13 12:27 AM (EST)
I'd read the article in the Spring 2012 issue of California Kayaker Magazine on getting butt time. Can be read online for free at http://www.calkayakermag.com/magazine.html.
Posted by: Kudzu on Jan-30-13 4:59 AM (EST)
I think of the 170 as being for around 200 pounders and upward.
Sizing - consider the 165|
Posted by: aamapes on Jan-30-13 8:29 AM (EST)
The Tempests are great boats. The 170 is pretty large, and many people find the 165 a better fit. I'd suggest trying both.
Just to benchmark|
Posted by: mctec on Jan-30-13 8:32 AM (EST)
I'm 180 lbs, 5' 9" ... and I found the T-170 a little big and unwieldy. The T-165 is a much better fit for me. Seems more fun to paddle too.
And for my size|
Posted by: bartc on Jan-30-13 9:04 AM (EST)
5'11" 190 lb. size 11.5 shoe long legs, the 165 was too cramped, but the 170 fit very well. Both have the same size cockpit opening and the same outfitting, so that's not the difference.
We have very similar sizing...|
Posted by: old_user on Jan-30-13 11:46 AM (EST)
... I'm also 5' 11", same shoe size, and roughly the same weight. I'll definitely head down to try it on for size, but I'm glad you found the 170 to be a good fit. I'd heard similar things about the 165 being too cramped for taller people. Thanks!
Move the Seat Back|
Posted by: Kudzu on Jan-30-13 4:37 PM (EST)
You can move the seat back in the 165. Makes getting in and out much easier. Helps accommodate long legs, too. I have taller, heavier friends who paddle my 165 and prefer it over the 170.
Posted by: radiomix on Jan-30-13 11:59 AM (EST)
Your intentions are to paddle the great lakes of our fair homeland, I would also add to your list something less sea kayak. If you really like paddling and think you would get into it, a club version of an epic 18x, or stellars 18 would be a great option. These boats are aimed at a little more straight ahead distance paddling. East Tennessee is a bit of a wasteland for paddlecraft. You can demo at riversports, I just wish they would add more choices in the long boat category.
For your size|
Posted by: LeeG on Jan-30-13 1:22 PM (EST)
You have a lot of extra carrying capacity in the 170. It's handling is not to my taste.
Not too bad here|
Posted by: old_user on Jan-30-13 2:57 PM (EST)
I live in Chattanooga on the Tennessee River, and we have some reservoirs and lakes that give us some flat water. Not the best in the world, but it's nice enough to please me.
That's pretty country|
Posted by: bowrudder on Jan-30-13 3:23 PM (EST)
I taught at Sewanee for a year. Made it into Chattanooga a lot. Isn't that Eric Johnson/WW country? How about something shorter than a full on sea kayak? How about a Tsunami 120, 130 or 140 instead?
plenty of water|
Posted by: radiomix on Jan-30-13 5:21 PM (EST)
There are hundreds of miles of navigable flatwater in East Tennessee. The problem is boat selection.
Lots of options|
Posted by: Marshall on Jan-30-13 12:12 PM (EST)
Kayak fit options|
Posted by: hodtay on Jan-30-13 6:47 PM (EST)
I don't paddle Tempest 170 but from what I know about the 170 I think you might find it too large. Moving the seat aft a couple inches might be a consideration to help you select the smaller sized Tempest if you're on the fence about which to choose.
I have one for sale|
Posted by: coldfeet on Feb-03-13 8:40 AM (EST)
I bought a demo poly 170 a few years ago, took it camping in the ADK area of NY and it held a ton of gear. I'm 6 feet app 205lbs with a size 13 foot. I moved the seat up app 1-2 in a few years ago for better handling. I'm going to put it up for sale this spring, if your in the NYC area let me know if you want to try it out if your interested. Only reason is because I have a pinched nerve in my arm (tennis elbow) and the boat is to heavy for me to keep picking up. Because of that I purchased a Placid boat and it weighs app 27lbs which I use basically in the rivers upstate. Let me know, send me your e mail if you want to see pictures.
If you fit, go for it|
Posted by: mobrien on Feb-03-13 9:41 AM (EST)
I've used T-170s for teaching first-timers how to paddle, and haven't found that the students have any harder time keeping it upright than boats that are shorter and wider. If you already have some experience in a boat, then it probably won't feel particularly unstable, and the secondary stability is excellent.
Fit and comfort|
Posted by: wilsoj2 on Feb-03-13 5:16 PM (EST)